Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
With the exception of the DA effects to Shadowskin and Shadow Wall (if those abilities get any changes I feel they should be independent of DA, as we already DA things constantly and it'd be more abilities to potentially pull Mana, which could upset the balance of building/maintaining/spending it) and the Plunge effect which is kinda iffy IMO (giving a tank a knockback seems really counterproductive) I actually think these are decent ideas. Just throwing it out there as I almost never see DRK suggestions that aren't incredibly poorly thought out.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on dark arts. I love the dark arts mechanic and want to see it do something to more things in DRKs arsenal to add more versatility and variety to its use.

As for plunge. I'm not talking huge blank/fluid aura knockback, literally just a tiny shove so it barely moves. My general thought was Levi ex. If DRK existed when that was relevant content it would be the only tank that wouldn't be able to deal with that AoE hysteria add. Where PLD could stun lock and WAR could stun the first and holmgang to drag it to stop the cast on the second, a DRK would only have low blow and then nothing to follow up. + if you leap across a room and slam a great sword into someone you'd expect them to stagger a bit.