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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    you raise concern before the patch guess what they are going to do? NOTHING. you have to wait and complain after the patch is implemented for them to even bother tinkering with anything.
    There's nothing wrong with letting people vent their concerns about upcoming changes. Even if their fears are unfounded, you can at least understand what they are worried about going into this patch.

    It's pretty clear that people use tiered spells to finesse enmity and control MP consumption. While I think that can be controlled a bit with current abilities, it might be nice to see if other features will be added to address these concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Hmm. . . CNJ abilities (pulled out of my arse).

    1. Wall (there's Protect and Shell together)
    2. Stoneskin
    3. Cure
    4. Esuna
    5. Holy (astral DD spell)
    6. . . .Un-holy? (Umbral DD spell)
    7. Soughspeak
    8. Raise
    9. Sleep
    10. . . .

    So, yeah, maybe I'm missing something, but that seems to cover the essentials. . .
    I'd guess you're missing the spells that make Conjurer, you know, an Elementalist? Conjurer is not the White Mage, White Mage is...

    I have a bad feeling reducing it down to only 15 spells is going to be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    I'd guess you're missing the spells that make Conjurer, you know, an Elementalist? Conjurer is not the White Mage, White Mage is...

    I have a bad feeling reducing it down to only 15 spells is going to be a problem.
    THM is getting the Elementals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    THM is getting the Elementals.
    THM is the class required for Black Mage, this is true. But show me where the Developers said THM is getting the elemental spells. They've already made clear that they're not making major changes to the skills granted to either class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
    Our next class revamps will not alter the fundamentals of each class.

    As such, some details will be changed, but there will not be any major changes for classes.

    Of course, if there are many demands for change after we release the details of the class revamps, we will look into those demands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    THM is the class required for Black Mage, this is true. But show me where the Developers said THM is getting the elemental spells. They've already made clear that they're not making major changes to the skills granted to either class.
    where did they make this clear at? Stop typing cause you dunt know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    where did they make this clear at? Stop typing cause you dunt know
    Yoshi-P stating that they "will not alter the fundamentals of each class" is not clear? The elemental spells of the Conjurer known for its ties to the elements and being an elementalist sound pretty fundamental to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    where did they make this clear at? Stop typing cause you dunt know
    Here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida
    Our next class revamps will not alter the fundamentals of each class.

    As such, some details will be changed, but there will not be any major changes for classes.

    Of course, if there are many demands for change after we release the details of the class revamps, we will look into those demands.
    From source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    Here:



    From source.
    Thank you Answa, although it shouldn't require quoting the same statement from Yoshi-P twice to get the point across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    Thank you Answa, although it shouldn't require quoting the same statement from Yoshi-P twice to get the point across.
    Whoops, sorry about that. Totally thought that quote was your sig and didn't even read it to know it was the same. Derp me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    Yoshi-P stating that they "will not alter the fundamentals of each class" is not clear? The elemental spells of the Conjurer known for its ties to the elements and being an elementalist sound pretty fundamental to me.
    You must not have common sense breh. Imma let you see when the patch goes live how wrong you arez
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