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    Patch Evaluation

    Hi again. I'm gonna be talking about the latest releases of content FFXIV brought and give my criticisms, useless as they are, but doing it anyway . Mostly its for the discussions and I like talking about them so others could share the experiences, as well as venting similar annoyances. Anyways lets get started...oh right, onelast thing. We all know about the Yoshi P interview that Yoshi really has no intentions of changing the straightline/amusment park rollercoaster rides style of gameplay, so there's not much reason for me to discuss some matters, so you wont be seeing me go
    anymore. Sorry

    SPOILERS, BE WARNED!!!

    Story Stuff


    Main Story

    Obviously good, but there was something a little mixed in there. I know were playing an RPG in which we as players feel obligated to make decisions, but when the decisions don't mean jack shit don't give us options when it does nothing to change the course of gameplay or story. What it does is just give us a reason to look at our Journals and select different answers to see what others say. Also F*** you Alphinaud making my answer seem like shit.

    Me: And the road moves on.
    Alphinaud: So it does my friend.
    Me: Snarky piece of crap. >:/

    There's tons more but I'll add some time later. anyways its mostly a 9/10

    Hildabrand Sidestory

    Funny and fun as always. I'm so glad they kept his mom for these as she's just tons of fun to listen to (well read but yeah). Vivi is kinda adorable still, but.....idk, just tired of em at this point. It isn't Vivi from FF9, its a mammet with powers, but thats just me. The story was fun as always though, and I didn't have to move too much, that's progress X). One thing in particular bugged me, not sure if anyoe else felt the same but, that scene with the old man when we were commanded to strip him naked and beat em senseless...yeaaahhhhh. I'd prefer if my character didn't have inner monologue for that. As much as I complain about my character being a plank of wood, I wouldn't like my character saying, goodnight sweet prince as she walks away from the possibly dead old man after leaving him defenseless against morbols in the area. Thats the only thing though, other than that, pretty darn fun XD. 9/10

    Scholasticate

    Still interesting. I have alot of fun with these investigative mystery types but its still limited to what the player can do outside of the stories boundries. I wont be giving advice on quest structure because "Yoshi P", but its still a bit underwhelming. Nice story though. 8/10

    Alexander

    HA! Forward and back, and then forward and back, and then go forward and back, then put one foot forward! This is your theme song as of now Yoshi with you and your Exponential Entropy, but anyways joking bs aside, these fights were pretty fun. I thought the 1st one was kinda bleh but they were interesting to say the least, and not much bs either (that being surprise mechanics you never know until you die from them making it trial and error by default). Alright, this has to be said though. Action Sequences, OMFG do more of em, please god yes. That was generally the biggest eyebrow raiser for this entire patch and for good reason. It looks cool, its responsive to impulse, its basically a mini-game within a boss fight. MOAR PLEASE! I can only imagine what else they'd add like our character having to hack a terminal playing a minigame like whack-a-gobbie or something or having our character do a series of FF7 jumps to platforms timing them right to ascend. So yeah, more of that please X). 8/10

    Sophia

    Probably the only boss I noticed that talks alot and I'm able to understand most of what she's saying. Since I was lagging for a while because Comcast blows and FFXIV still hasn't talked to them, I was unable to do Extreme mode. Anyways, talking about normal mode, this fight was pretty fun. Its rather short, like Shiva's fight but......ok, not to sound like some feminist or anything (I'm a guy) Shiva's and Sophia's fights are pretty darn short, on the normals anyway. Not sure why I feel that way and it could just be me but Idk, what do you guys think? So yeah, fun fights, also tiny bits of math in the fight (counting weights), I welcome it. Instead of just using numbers for RNG you can do so for simple problem solving, your learning devs! Lol, but seriously nice job. 9/10

    PVP

    Duels

    WHM vs DRK = You'll be fighting till another Dalamud drops the bomb on us, except it'd be Soken's hand in a thumbs up position with Yoshi P inside or something.....idk, the mode's unbalanced. To be honest we all know the mode was going to be unbalanced, but I'm yet to hear or see any discussions on fixing some of these un-balances on the forums. If your gonna make us believe your keeping an eye on PvP other than throwing things at us your gonna have to participate Square, and no, I don't mean having your workers play the damn game, I'm sure they do that anyway. Talk to the PvPers, answer some requests, take more notes. Another thing I like to add is please allow us to duel in other places as well. If its just between 2 people I really cant see a reason to not allow it. Your literally dividing the community just for a simple 1 on 1 mechanic. Not to mention great it could be for RP purposes. PvP Gear is practically useless with the new gear now. If its all ilvls and materia bonuses don't do crap still......oh wait, this is that straightline bs I was talking about right? my bad XP

    Also, Bards and corner shooting, yeah, its broken.

    ......no other PvP announcements....sigh 6/10, at least they listened to our request but, yeah.

    Filler Content Calling it this now for how redundant its getting

    Wondrous Tails



    Lol jking. Aside from the creeepy cute Miqote this mode is....a piece of crap. Your making us run random dungeons and content to fill out a book for some girl's friend for items, in which the 3rd item is the most wanted thing because the other items are crap yet somewhat impossible to get due to rng?



    All I'm going to say about this is, "Rowena, die in a Fire IV". >:/ Pedo Roegydan out of 10

    Squadrons



    Read my signature, I was not disappointed. Oh, and I've yet to see an item for my use other than the Squads. Goodjob -_- Airships/10

    Dungeons

    Gubal Library

    Loved it as much as the other one, and no thats not taking a hit at the shocking similarities because IT FUCKING IS SIMILAR, but the overall design of the dungeon is still eye catching. Books are scattered around the library sharing funny stories, some referring to other things like why Cure II is no longer Cura (Classics over convenience I say -_- ) and funny stories about some Dragon Born kid which was an interesting read......Heavensward is such a Skyrim wannabe if that's what they're implying XD. The boss fights are ok. Gonna say this now though. I believe it was the 2nd boss, which is the Fire copy of that one Alexander boss....why.... Are you that lazy or maybe your trying to ease players into that content? Idk, but it was stupid. The original fight wasn't too hard to begin with anyway, so I really don't see the point other than more convenience. Other than that, it was a ride I enjoyed.....woops did I say that out loud ;D 8/10

    Xephatol

    Gonna be honest, I thought this dungeon was a bit boring. If it wasn't for that ONE part I'd say its pretty dull. There's some nice visuals like the waterfall rapids and looking above the clouds when your so high up (apparently). They put a gondola kinda thing for the WOL to traverse on but it looks flat out goofy seeing us ride it like statues. We're already planks of wood, we don't need to be reminded lol. So yeah, that ONE part......Piglets for everyoneeeeee!! X) Actually I'm sure its just there to show us what we could possibly get by running that boring place hundreds of times. While is good for showing players what they can have, Lol yeah no thanks. Not that bad though. I give it a 7/10


    Overall evaluation is a 7.5

    I had fun with the story stuff which took me about 3 days this time. A quick note: I just recently discovered they actually had a scholasticate quest and I completed it today, though I completed the other content way before in 2 days.
    Filler content is less than abysmal, though I guessed as much after the Deep Dungeon incidents, which I'm surprised they didn't just build on the subtle success of Deep Dungeon instead of the Garrisons reject (Squadrons) and Wondrous Tails. I know there's suppose to be 50 more floors coming, but they did NOT add them to the patch on release, and al they added now was more random RNG on the RNG table. I'm not tired of it, just annoyed with it now. Please don't kill your new content.

    So yeah, fun for the time it lasted. Nice job guys.

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    You forgot the part about how dumb it was to make everyone's wondrous tails rewards all the same. It's Naul all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    You forgot the part about how dumb it was to make everyone's wondrous tails rewards all the same. It's Naul all over again.
    There is nothing dumb about making the reward the same, it was done to prevent the RNG of oh I never get the body piece i want as tier 3. By keeping the books similar reward wise it keeps things in order and prevents a potential scenario like, "How come I never get Thancred for line 2 but he's gotten Thancred for line 2 3 times already" It just keeps things fair/easier to manage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    You forgot the part about how dumb it was to make everyone's wondrous tails rewards all the same. It's Naul all over again.
    They are!?



    Oh wait, it'd kinda make sense if we're all doing the same dungeons for our books, but not for the rewards so yeah, still pretty dumb. Not everyone wants 250 tank gear afterall. At least thats what showed up on mine the first week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Oh wait, it'd kinda make sense if we're all doing the same dungeons for our books, but not for the rewards so yeah, still pretty dumb. Not everyone wants 250 tank gear afterall. At least thats what showed up on mine the first week.
    It's not even just that. The value of the battle pieces has a very small window before everyone's in i260 bodies, so already the jobs that haven't "gotten their turn" are disadvantaged, and those that get these rewards after the 4-week mark are basically left with really rare junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    You forgot the part about how dumb it was to make everyone's wondrous tails rewards all the same. It's Naul all over again.
    It's not even close to being Naul. the problem with Naul is because i need to kill Naul and Naul is dead so i can't find it. the rewards being the same doesn't create any situation like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    It's not even just that. The value of the battle pieces has a very small window before everyone's in i260 bodies, so already the jobs that haven't "gotten their turn" are disadvantaged, and those that get these rewards after the 4-week mark are basically left with really rare junk.
    probably why they have crafting and gathering pieces on the list too. i imagine they can move the battle pieces to a 2 line reward at that point if they want.
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    I got so mad at Wondrous Tails last night Had the Thancred minion available as the 2nd line award so I waited until I had 7 stickers and blew almost all 9 of my second chances on shuffles. I ended up with a set up where the odds were pretty good I would get two lines and very good that I would at least get one. Then I collect my final two stickers only to have them appear in the exact spots that did not connect to anything so I got zero lines for the week >:/

    When I went to turn in the book I spammed the /slap emote on Khloe until the police showed up and hauled me away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eifahlwyn View Post
    I got so mad at Wondrous Tails last night Had the Thancred minion available as the 2nd line award so I waited until I had 7 stickers and blew almost all 9 of my second chances on shuffles. I ended up with a set up where the odds were pretty good I would get two lines and very good that I would at least get one. Then I collect my final two stickers only to have them appear in the exact spots that did not connect to anything so I got zero lines for the week >:/
    Same happened to me. Had an almost guaranteed two line set going after using eight points to reshuffle whilst at 7/9, there was several places even that would have given just the one line... but of course it goes and puts a sticker for eight and nine in the less-likely of given spots, ensuring no lines.
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    Scholasticate

    Yeah it is unfortunate that we are that we can't do any actual detective work. At least Briardien asked for my oppinion sometimes, and agreed with it. Of course it is no witcher temple district, but for an MMO I think it is a pretty decent invetigation questline. I'm actually enjoying it more than Hildibrand. Hildi feels kinda forced. Like they really didn't want to do more, but caved in to fan demand. Their heart might not be in it. Or it might just be the abscence of Greg and Ultros.

    Main Scenario

    We are really going to have to disagree here. I know we can't change the story but I really liked that we got to talk a lot. Especially when I had a chance to remind Alisae of that one time she saved our skins in 2.55 to stop her from lamenting her "uselessness". It was also a nice touch how they implemented Titan hard. We also got a huge lore dump, some twists, a decent ammount of forshadowing, an epic confrontation with the WoDs, an acknowledgement of our past deeds outside the Main Scenario (Coil), and a pet that as far as I know has been in high demand (Moenbryda). It also fealt quite long, with a dungeon, a trial, a solo duty and several long cutscenes. For me this was the best patch-Main Scenario including the 2.x era

    Still loving Deep Dungeons and I like looking for hoard. It also explains why my character goes in over and over again despite freeing Edda long ago.

    As for Squadrons and Woundrous Tails: I'm doing Frontlines and dungeons anyway for tomestones, so I see no problem with getting seals and recruits as a bonus. It will not gear me for savage raids, but I was never that good at raiding so it doesn't matter for me much. I just like having new toys to play with.
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