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  1. #21
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    Astral145's Avatar
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    Astral Flame
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    LMAO this thread..... I smell a troll hole near by
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    Were numbers invented or discovered? How many Moogles does it take to make Kuponut rum? Answer: zero... They will give you a quest to make it.

  2. #22
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Lol no, our SCH is doing just fine. Our other healer double mains AST/WHM so we were set for these changes. Our SCH actually wanted to AST but we want him to remain SCH.
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  3. #23
    Player Yona87's Avatar
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    Beato Ushiromiya
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    Nah all these Whm and Sch threads are in fear because now Ast can now fill both roles pretty well which now its not longer a standard for a Whm/sch combo

    These ast buff litterall made healers more competitive between each other and now that the sch/whm combo now see a threat to take there spot they want to complain on the forums because astrologian can now compete with there precious spots in raids now

    No longer are astrologian in pain begining the expansion where we was rock bottem now we have a fighting chance and the whm/sch now fear us and it feels sooo damn nice
    But there isn't any competition.
    Its an illusion.
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  4. #24
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Fyi for sophia ex, crit adlo will not makes you knock back from her daughter
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  5. #25
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    if statics replace their sch or their whm in favor of an ast, doesn't that mean ast is finally well balanced since it now can fill either role? cause without the buff those parties would still go whm+sch and get stuff done anyway (after all neither of the 2 got nerfed)
    Depends. If your raid comp has two healer slots open, and you get Bob (WHM) and Tom (AST) show up, and the raid is fine with it because the healers in tandem with each other cover the necessary bases, then yes, that's fine. If they're going for AST because theorycraft showed that the AST buffs result in greater raid DPS, giving the raid's healers the option of "switch to AST or be kicked", then you have a huge problem because one's utility is overshadowing the contribution of the other members of the roster. Basically what I predict happens when you bank on utility/buffs instead of keeping said mechanics on a leash.

    I'm not sure why a raid would kick a SCH, but that's how I see the situation.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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  6. #26
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    Pixelmancer's Avatar
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    J'majha Tyata
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterMan View Post
    I have seen at least 2 statics that have kicked out their scholars because they didn't want to level Astroligan. I hope all of you are happy with the changes.
    Anyone that obsessed with min maxing will kick someone out every single patch. That doesn't make scholar useless.
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    Last edited by Pixelmancer; 09-30-2016 at 06:04 PM.

  7. #27
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    Lewtini's Avatar
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    Lewt Kururu
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I do think we're too reliant on crit (rng) and SE likes to hide it from us. ;-;
    But useless? I doubt I'd go that far, you should only be worried if you're a bad scholar.

    I honestly can't see my MH (whm) or any smart MH for that matter, just ditching their SCH OH purely based on these changes, you'll see a lot more Noct Ast's for sure but Noct was severely under represented in anywhere but pvp pre-patch.

    I'm glad it was buffed, really.
    Although I don't like AST at all and I don't intend to play it even with the changes.
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  8. #28
    Player Windi's Avatar
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    Windi Skywalker
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Funniest thing I've read in a long time.

    God, people and their whining. First, AST sucked and no on wanted them. Then they get buffed up to the level of WHM and SCH and now both those jobs are "dead . . . RIP!"

    The drama never stops.
    Indeed. People tend to look at at any nerf on the planet as this really big thing, so they think their favorite classes are now worthless because its numbers got a minor adjustment at best. Knee-jerk reactions at their best.

    To the OP, the problem isn't Scholars, it's that those statics consist of terrible people.
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  9. #29
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    Aurorarose51's Avatar
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    Rika Sylvermyst
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Just tried out whm/ast combo in a9s and 10s last night. It really didn't go at all bad or annoying. Though 9 i went diurnal anyways since you really don't need the shield for much of anythings. Just kept hots running and it's almost like eos was there. Also zero issues in 10 as noct. But I guess the real test is how 11 and 12 is gonna go I guess.
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