[Devs] 3x Skill bars in 2.0

**Rowyne** · 11-14-2011 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Agoven

There's already a command to keep the action bar up at all times /actionbar

/facepalm Obvious troll is obvious.

This is about seeing all three action bars on the screen at once. As it stands now, even if you have it visible at all times, you still have to scroll between them. I don't call out trolls very often, but you just can't be this completely oblivious to the conversation.

**Aramyth** · 11-14-2011 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Agoven

Frankly, what's the point?...it's not really a mouse-click game anyways. Most people who play that way play horrid anyways...

Do you realise why? Because the UI isn't designed for it. lol

**Agoven** · 11-14-2011 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Rowyne

/facepalm Obvious troll is obvious.

This is about seeing all three action bars on the screen at once. As it stands now, even if you have it visible at all times, you still have to scroll between them. I don't call out trolls very often, but you just can't be this completely oblivious to the conversation.

It's lovely that you call someone a troll when you don't even have a character over level 25 character...and your statements become invalid when you don't frankly know how to even play the game.

**Charismatic** · 11-14-2011 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Agoven

It's lovely that you call someone a troll when you don't even have a character over level 25 character...

Get that crap outta here, judge a post by its content and not by the person's level. Either way, their statement sure made a hell of a lot more sense than yours. Deal w/ it.

**Ilean** · 11-14-2011 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Ilean

Hint: He says he is not trolling.

**Flower** · 11-14-2011 09:23 AM

I really support this idea. As well as to make it so its an option you can turn on or off to please everyone playstyle.

**Themis** · 11-14-2011 03:45 PM

Options are good. I personally play with a controller, so I'm still having to scroll between abilities regardless of how many bars I can see. A keyboard user would probably have to press other buttons (like you do for macros) to get use out of this idea, or scroll up/down to chose which skill bar/row to use before hitting the key. It only really solves things for a mouse user.

But if that's how you play and it makes your life easier, then there's really not a problem. It's already been stated that they want to improve gameplay for all types of users, be they controller or keyboard with or without mouse. As long as said option is an option, and not enforced as the standard from which all others are options, it's all good regardless of whether or not that play style is optimal.

**Felis** · 11-14-2011 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Technolust

As a tank class job you need to be able to target monsters first, over anything else. The only mode that allows you to do this is /tmode b with enemy targeting as the selected option. The Function key that was designed to target the mob closest to you does not work. /btmode on only works for enemies you actually have enmity from. Direct targeting, which is supposed to target the closest monster to you does not work either.

As I mentioned above, and since you don't have a tanking class at level 50 to really see what I'm talking about it isn't as simple as you make it out, especially since most high level groupings now are multi-monster fights.

There is a target function in the keyboard config which target only monsters no matter what the current target filter is.
Cycle through enemies: T
Cycle through enemies (reverse): Shift + T

Or change the key setting for toggle target filter to
Toggle target filter: Shift + ↓
Toggle target filter (reverse): Shift + ↑

**Seif** · 11-14-2011 04:25 PM

For controller users I'd prefer a LOT less clutter and menu fly-outs designed around the use of d-pad. You keyboarders have no idea how often I accidentally switch skill-bars and the whole fight turns into this big menu hassle mess.

Also I can see that this system will in the future be very limiting to those who have acquired a large set of skills and are restricted to only 3 bars in active use.

I'd be completely fine with a complete copy of FF I-XI style system that keeps all the unnecessary stuff hidden + this game's slow battle gives you more menu hassle time anyway than XI ever did.

**Technolust** · 11-15-2011 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Agoven

It's lovely that you call someone a troll when you don't even have a character over level 25 character...and your statements become invalid when you don't frankly know how to even play the game.

This just proves my point. Thanks for the laugh Troll Trollerson.

Originally Posted by Felis

There is a target function in the keyboard config which target only monsters no matter what the current target filter is.
Cycle through enemies: T
Cycle through enemies (reverse): Shift + T

Or change the key setting for toggle target filter to
Toggle target filter: Shift + ↓
Toggle target filter (reverse): Shift + ↑

Thanks for the info Skadi I will have to give this a try and see if this helps. Here is a question for you though does it work like /tmode b (enemy) setting? Without having to set tmode?

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