[Spoiler] 3.4 End Cutscene Rant

**Zohar_Lahar** · 09-29-2016 06:15 AM

With Elidibus apparently satisfied by the outcome, and the other three eradicated, it looks like the Ascian subplot is going to be suspended. From here on, it's going to be about Ala Mhigo and Omega.

**HaelseMikiro** · 09-29-2016 12:24 PM

Griffin is probably Ilberd, and he'll probably use the eyes as a substitute for crystals to become Rhalgr. Or nothing at all similar to what I said, who knows.

**CaptainLagbeard** · 09-29-2016 02:45 PM

Ilberd seems like he'd probably be the most likely person who would try to get people to go get Ala Mhigo back like The Griffin is doing, but I doubt he'll try to summon Rhalgar...
They wanted the crystals to trade them to the Amal'jaa in exchange to get them to help in a fight to take back Ala Mhigo.

My guess for 3.5's main plot points being that The Griffin's identity gets revealed, he uses Nidhogg's Eyes in some matter, goes off to Ala Mhigo to horribly fuck up the Empire's troops there and we have to get ready to go to the Gyr Abania region where Ala Mhigo is located in 4.0...

**TripPsyc** · 09-29-2016 03:09 PM

I'm starting to think that one of the people in the story line is Gaius Van Baelsar's son. Wasn't there a hint about him falling in love with an Eorzean woman?
Possibly Unukalhai as his son?

**ZhaneX** · 09-29-2016 04:27 PM

I remember that when Heavensward and the course it would take were announced and revealed, I said "I want to fight on the side of the Dragons!"...and we kind of did. We learned the truth of the war, uncovered a conspiracy, befriended dragons...

And now, at the end of 3.4, the Warrior of Darkness with his final words, advises that we disregard the simple logic of "Light and Dark", and carve our own path...
HMMMMMMMMM...

**vanitaslaughing** · 09-29-2016 10:51 PM

MSQ seems to be taking the 'light and darkness in equal measures = good; imbalance = bad" route that FFIII and Kingdom Hearts have going on. I'm very pleased by that, personally, because I do love me some equilibrium between powers and neither being inheritly bad unless you use it for bad things (the First going down in light is a straight reference to FFIII's past flood of light. Good).

As for the Eyes; we saw Nidhogg going pop. Not body-wise, but soul-wise. That's the important thing here - Midgardsormr went pop body-wise and managed to reconstruct a body (albeit small for some reason) within 10 years, all the while while being completely aware of everything in Mor Dhona and with the whole Hydaelyn shenanigans.
Nidhogg, on the other hand, went pop soul-wise, much like Ratatoskr did. There's no coming back from that kind of death, not even for dragons of the first brood.

Now, that nasty popsicle good old Elly handed Totally-Not-Ilberd-Probably? That's a tremendous source of Aether. I'm speaking massive here. No vengeful dragon soul attached this time.
The Griffin wants to summon Rhalgr as primal to take back Ala Mhigo by force. Tremendous source of Aether. Summoning a primal. Hm.

It wasn't a smart move to toss the Eyes off the Steps of Faith in hindsight, but who was on the Steps of Faith that day? Nidhogg's brood, which probably immediately scattered away when Nidhogg was defeated, before you remove the Eyes. Ishgardians - none of which would ever be stupid enough to bring back Nidhogg after a thousand years of war, even if Nidhogg's good old vengeful soul still resided in the Eyes. Scions - again, none of them (and you as WoL) would get the Eyes. Hraesvelgr's brood - which has always voiced distaste for the Dragonsong War but fought back against Ishgardians when necessary, and they allied with Ishgard in that battle.
And the Warriors of Darkness/an Ascian, who had reasons for grabbing the Eyes to obtain a lot of power.

Hence why the nasty popsicle appeared at the end, the WoD's grabbed it because they kinda wanted to cause utter chaos here, and that source of Aether is too big to pass up on.

... The thought of the Warriors of Darkness skyfishing for the nasty Eyesicle is... hilarious.

**Alleo** · 09-29-2016 11:17 PM

Even if we had let Estinien die the eyes would have still been there. There is no evidence that they would suddenly destroy themselves if the wearer is death. I mean the eye of Ratatoskr was still there even after her death and after the death of the first dragoon. So we would have had to deal with them either way. I dont know how to seal them effectively and it looked like it was quite deep, so I am more annoyed that the WoD somehow were able to find the eyes..(and if they are not destroyed after such a fall what can even destroy them?) But maybe we should really just start to listen to ourself..and trust that we would not have been overcome by the eyes.

After the whole fight they should have been quite exhausted so maybe they will give the Griffin some strength but not too much?

I am still on the side of Hydaelyn. Even the WoD said that it was Zodiark that started to get stronger and stronger and forced her to banish him. Since they were on the side of the Ascians they would have told us something different if that was not the "truth". Maybe she herself did not know that too much Light would cause the end of a world? (And I am still baffled how too much Light can even exists with humankind..)And maybe after she noticed it, she was already to weak to do something herself? I mean she needed Minfilia to talk to us so she was in a really bad situation. Lets not forget that the ones that want to kill her thus creating an imbalance too are the black Ascians..so siding with them would be bad too. (And would probably mean the end of all life) Maybe we might listen to some of the things that the white Ascians has to say but the other Ascians are clearly not right. We (WoD+WoL) gave up a crystal of Light to finally give her back some of her power and she immediately started to help the WoD's and it seems that we dont necessarily need someone bad to stop the Light.

**Lokier** · 09-30-2016 12:20 AM

No more Minfillia, best patch ever.

I saw those eyes coming as well, tbh.

**Rizon** · 09-30-2016 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Lokier

No more Minfillia, best patch ever.

I saw those eyes coming as well, tbh.

Don't be so hasty. As SE is wont to do they left an opening for her return.

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