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    If you always wanted it, the prices are fine. If you never did then you wont care. People on this forum say other People complain, yet when they Get their outfit its the prices problem. They never intended to have them here. Dont say its stupid everyone wont Get everything. Please, chinese market is different. And xp bonus isnt pay to win, someone explain to me how that is pay to win lol.
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    Franz Renatus
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    Quote Originally Posted by HungryHippo View Post
    If you always wanted it, the prices are fine. If you never did then you wont care. People on this forum say other People complain, yet when they Get their outfit its the prices problem. They never intended to have them here. Dont say its stupid everyone wont Get everything. Please, chinese market is different. And xp bonus isnt pay to win, someone explain to me how that is pay to win lol.
    It "makes leveling faster" is probably what they mean. Which, for leveling up an alt class, it still takes quite a while for more casual players like me. I get about maybe 3-4 hours of gameplay on most evenings and can't just grind content when I'm under lv15. (1-15 is truly the worst. Everything else isn't bad). So if this happens to stack with the novice ring and the helm of might or other stuff, it's a HUGE speedup for me and definitely worth the cost. (And I like glamours.)
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by reiichi View Post
    It "makes leveling faster" is probably what they mean. Which, for leveling up an alt class, it still takes quite a while for more casual players like me. I get about maybe 3-4 hours of gameplay on most evenings and can't just grind content when I'm under lv15. (1-15 is truly the worst. Everything else isn't bad). So if this happens to stack with the novice ring and the helm of might or other stuff, it's a HUGE speedup for me and definitely worth the cost. (And I like glamours.)
    Except it won't make leveling faster. Did you look at the stats? They don't grow as you level, so you're purposely gimping yourself, which will significantly slow down a dungeon run, for an exp increase. Looks like a wash to me.

    And, side note, 1-15 is extremely easy if you're doing your hunting log.
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    Last edited by Zigabar; 09-29-2016 at 12:26 AM.
    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

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    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HungryHippo View Post
    If you always wanted it, the prices are fine. If you never did then you wont care. People on this forum say other People complain, yet when they Get their outfit its the prices problem. They never intended to have them here. Dont say its stupid everyone wont Get everything. Please, chinese market is different. And xp bonus isnt pay to win, someone explain to me how that is pay to win lol.
    The xp bonus on these items is the same as the ring you get from the hall of novice. I don't see that particular one being pay to win. However, the notion of being able to pay to skip the leveling process or a majority of the main scenario quest is seriously pay to win. I agree with your other point though. We weren't ever intended to get these items. It makes pretty good sense that we have to pay a premium for it. Just like we had to pay a premium for the Lightning Strikes items that weren't ever going to be added to the cash shop.
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    Last edited by Kerii; 09-29-2016 at 12:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    The xp bonus on these items is the same as the ring you get from the hall of novice. I don't see that particular one being pay to win. However, the notion of being able to pay to skip the leveling process or a majority of the main scenario quest is seriously pay to win. I agree with your other point though. We weren't ever intended to get these items. It makes pretty good sense that we have to pay a premium for it. Just like we had to pay a premium for the Lightning Strikes items that weren't ever going to be added to the cash shop.
    See, I disagree. Pay to win implies giving someone a distinct advantage over those who opt not to. If someone were to purchase a jump potion, they aren't going to be suddenly capable of clearing Savage. They simply get to skip ahead of the arduous 2.x to Heavensward grind. For some people, the story is irrelevant. They'll skip it all anyway. A jump potion isn't going to change that.
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    Annah Gynnterais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    See, I disagree. Pay to win implies giving someone a distinct advantage over those who opt not to. If someone were to purchase a jump potion, they aren't going to be suddenly capable of clearing Savage. They simply get to skip ahead of the arduous 2.x to Heavensward grind. For some people, the story is irrelevant. They'll skip it all anyway. A jump potion isn't going to change that.
    I agree

    Pay to win is like paying 45 dollars for an entire set of Scripture tome gear. I think people aren't getting what "Pay to win" is.

    Paying for a dress that gives you a 30% xp increase to lvl 30 (that you can do in a day anyways) is not pay to win
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    Lala Yuki
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    It's a body piece, leg piece & feet for 18$.

    Snow/Lightning attire is Hairstyle, body, arms, legs, & feet for what...15$?

    I assumed(idk why but I did) it would be 10~$ for the China stuff if it was released over here & I did plan on getting it...but it's almost twice that. And I value my money...so I am not buying it. I personally don't care about a cash shop, as long as it reasonable. This is not. But what does it matter, I'm just one person.
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    If you want to call this pay to win, go for it. Personally, I stop listening to you at that point because an experience boost to level 30 that is comparable to the invite a friend head piece that stops no where near end game isn't pay to win. It's "pay to save two hours". There are many reasons to complain about the cash shop, but that isn't one of them.

    I'm going to guess that they set the price point because they knew from the forum requests that it would be a high demand outfit. I mean, there could be some kind of extra fee that has to be paid to the Chinese publisher to use it but I doubt it. If you think it's overpriced, talk with your wallet. People not buying the dyes was probably what forced them into the game as a venture reward.
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    Sam West
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    @kerii but the people asked for the item the Chinese game got. They should have invest their time to look and get all the description of the item and then see if they wanted the exact item or want SE to make modifications. SE gave what people asked, which is the exclusive item.nothing less.
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    Aivi Kupo
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    My whole point of view is that the cash shop should only be used for items that were already obtainable in game and could be used for people who want to catch up. No exclusives and no retainers.
    I love glamouring - but I don't believe I should pay any more than my sub in order to get this stuff.
    Sadly a lot of people seem to want to throw money at the cs, it will get worse and worse and eventually drive loyal people away with frustration.
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