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  1. #91
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    Sam West
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    @celef you are not forced to buy it. Only a shopahilic will have that problem by saying you are forced to. There are SO many games for PS4 and I will want to buy, but I don't want to spend money for an extra console when I have my computer so I'm not force to buy it.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    But go on, give your money to Se while using smart words, in 6 months, when they will start to sell Xp potion and insta lvl 60 tickets or outfit for 30$ we'll remember that time when we disagreed
    Nice edit.

    Actually, I find the Mogstation to expensive for what it is and, instead of complaining about it, I take my own advice and just don't buy it. Still have full functionality of the game, thank you. I enjoy all the content just as much. I also refuse to support SE through the mogstation when I have no guarantee that the money goes back into FFXIV, as you pointed out. I am just pointing out that the items are not "overpriced" relative to the demand.

    Put please, continue to put words in my mouth and be histrionic when I'm just pointed out the science behind the issue. Makes you look very reasonable
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  3. #93
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    Khemorex's Avatar
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    Khalindra Nela
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    also it would be nice to know how much of that money goes for ffxiv , but i gues we never gona know :P
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  4. #94
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Cash shop gonna cash.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post


    Just need to put in a subs tag and cash shop tags
    I would not disagree with this assessment. That is all of the games industry though, not just this particular game. I also don't disagree with those of you who choose not to support the cash shop for objective reasons. I'm just not condemning people for buying items to make their digital barbie doll pretty.

    I should also disclose that I'm buying the dress set whether I wanted to or not. I owe someone almost the exact amount that it costs. <_>
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  6. #96
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Like reddit said :

    "Monday: I will give you anything for this outfit."
    "Wednesday: $18!? Fuck that!"
    Interestingly it's £11.16 ($14.52)

    Also, the set bonus is somewhat useless after level 10 or so, since you need to wear actually gear instead of it.
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  7. #97
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerii View Post
    The xp bonus on these items is the same as the ring you get from the hall of novice. I don't see that particular one being pay to win. However, the notion of being able to pay to skip the leveling process or a majority of the main scenario quest is seriously pay to win. I agree with your other point though. We weren't ever intended to get these items. It makes pretty good sense that we have to pay a premium for it. Just like we had to pay a premium for the Lightning Strikes items that weren't ever going to be added to the cash shop.
    See, I disagree. Pay to win implies giving someone a distinct advantage over those who opt not to. If someone were to purchase a jump potion, they aren't going to be suddenly capable of clearing Savage. They simply get to skip ahead of the arduous 2.x to Heavensward grind. For some people, the story is irrelevant. They'll skip it all anyway. A jump potion isn't going to change that.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    See, I disagree. Pay to win implies giving someone a distinct advantage over those who opt not to. If someone were to purchase a jump potion, they aren't going to be suddenly capable of clearing Savage. They simply get to skip ahead of the arduous 2.x to Heavensward grind. For some people, the story is irrelevant. They'll skip it all anyway. A jump potion isn't going to change that.
    I agree

    Pay to win is like paying 45 dollars for an entire set of Scripture tome gear. I think people aren't getting what "Pay to win" is.

    Paying for a dress that gives you a 30% xp increase to lvl 30 (that you can do in a day anyways) is not pay to win
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  9. #99
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    You know what I give up, like I said, you wanted the CS, deal with it now, and at the expansion when they'll add skipping MSQ potion and insta lvl 70 tickets.
    And when they add the korean outfit for 30$ cause this one sold for 20, please, don't make the same mistake than me when I said it's considering their customer for whales, instead, just say thank you and lit a little candle for that wonderfull company
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  10. #100
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    You know what I give up, like I said, you wanted the CS, deal with it now, and at the expansion when they'll add skipping MSQ potion and insta lvl 70 tickets.
    And when they add the korean outfit for 30$ cause this one sold for 20, please, don't make the same mistake than me when I said it's considering their customer for whales, instead, just say thank you and lit a little candle for that wonderfull company
    We'll cross the leveling potion bridge if they decide to go there. Here's hoping they don't. That said, a high priced dress and level jump items are not equivalent and no amount of hyperbole will make them equivalent.
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    Insanity is a gradual process, don't rush it - Ford Prefect

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