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    Ali Lifesaver
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    I'll never get the teleport argument, there's nothing amazing about taking a flight path and going afk until you reach the destination, which is what everyone does. Taking a flight path and afking = teleporting to an aetheryte without the afking part.

    Same for people who advocate for 30 mins boat rides, there's nothing immersive about going afk until you reach your destination, maybe there was back then when youtube and netflix didn't exist, but now they do.
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    I don't get the transportation argument either. WoW players hop on their flying mounts (even in the original zones) they have multiple speeds of mounts to make them ridiculously fast. They can also hop on an NPC bird and fly to another destination (just like the chocobo rental).

    It's interesting how people complain about something in game and compare to another game that has the same features.

    And the thing that gets me....

    People are complaining about FFXIV being too easy to move about. Too fast.

    If you hate teleporting...use your feet. Your chocobo. Your bird...whatever.

    Use the actual airship terminals that are ingame at every major HUB.
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    Firstly why would you pay a sub for WoW. It is immensely easy to make Gold in WoW and you can buy game tokens.

    Secondly SE couldn't turn FF14 into an open world game if they wanted to. It would require such a huge overhaul of the games core engine that it just wouldn't be feasible. Its like trying to turn a car into a speed boat. Maybe you could do it but it would probably wouldn't work too well and in the end it would just be cheaper to pay for a speedboat.

    Thirdly they are introducing flying into legion within a few patchs. They said mid expansion so that probably means next teir so 7.2 or 7.3 at the latest. Frankly movement around Legion will be quicker and easier than it is in FF14 relatively soon.

    Fourth Blizzard has a habit of being far less consistent and more prone to complete overhauls. This applies to game design and story. The artefact you would be grinding your ass off in Legion to make won't survive into the next expac and currently they are saying they have no plans to create a new one since 'its a legion thing'.

    Finally, both games have a lot of great things about them and both are worth playing. However while they have a lot of similarities they have a lot of differences too and weither you favour one of the other is purely down to personal taste which varies a great deal even within a single games playerbase. Case in point, I LOVE FF14's crafting and gathering system and it is superior to WoWs in a way that frankly I doubt WoW will ever manage to match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Thirdly they are introducing flying into legion within a few patchs. They said mid expansion so that probably means next teir so 7.2 or 7.3 at the latest. Frankly movement around Legion will be quicker and easier than it is in FF14 relatively soon.
    And this is assuming that Blizzard don't drag their feet on the matter like they did with WoD. Remember how they said they'd likely introduce flying in 6.1 or 6.2 and then waiting until near the end of the expansion to reimplement flying?
    Fourth Blizzard has a habit of being far less consistent and more prone to complete overhauls.
    I don't condemn overhauls (god knows we need some here for the sake of future content development), but yeah, Blizzard changes their game time and again.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Belhi: You mean how FFXIV should have been from the start? Something unique and not a FFXIV A WoW Clone reborn because Yoshi P seem to think that taking a playerbase from another MMORPG that will just go to that MMORPG or whatever is hot right now is important than the loyal key core SE customergroup?
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    Id like to try WOW but the cartoonish graphics turn me off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade_Roux View Post
    Id like to try WOW but the cartoonish graphics turn me off.
    This game isn't cartoonish? Well I mean, it's a different style of cartoonish (more anime than Western), but it's not like it's less cartoony imo.
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    If anything that can be taken from Legion is that the world quests are rather awesome and I think it would help our current empty lands that have no use anymore.
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    Wow will always compete with ffxiv even with its ever declining population...it is simply too huge not to.
    I enjoy both ffxiv and wow, and have Legion as well.

    At times wow will be more of a "main" game for me, other times its ffxiv. When there is a craving for me to be creative, I choose rift for dimensions etc...ffxi for nostalgia...

    Not going to argue whether wow or ffxiv is "better", because for me, neither are any better. They are just different. Different strong points and weak areas. But they both have em.

    I don't see that as a bad thing, just reality.

    (As nice as it would be to have the "perfect" game, there's really no such thing since a game catered to my likes for example would only appeal to a certain minset of people and that's it...yet other ppls priorities I may despise, so no game can ever be perfect, in fact not even close to perfection in all the possible areas to satisfy customers.)

    I like that both wow and ffxiv exist (and the others too) Blizzard has made huge mistakes, so has SE ..but at the end of the day they provide games that a vast number of people in the world can enjoy.

    I think SE should try and grab some more "pros" from other games, and other games could improve from some aspects of this game as well.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Lot of being critical in this thread but as a new player picking up ffxiv again with ARR, I find the game experience very promising. There are tons of activities to do in the game. Some things might not be very fun like being a resource gatherer but it is still things to do. If you narrow your scope of activities to say.. raiding or just doing dungeon crawls, there are other games that are more for the hardcore raider. Seems that several people want the perfect game and it will never happen. I've played years of eq1 and eq2 and wow.. and while ff14 will never beat eq1 to me, it certainly has me excited for a game that I haven't been at since I picked up everquest 1 for the first time with the kunark xpac.

    Or several people may just be running through burn out and need to change things up a bit. It's not a bad thing to play another game.
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