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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    who is the new narrator?
    In Japanese, at least, it's Honoroit. Hoping that means something for down the line, but he could just be a doublecast like Tataru is for Nanamo.

    MSQ thoughts:
    Late to the party, so most of what I felt going through has been said already, except for

    DAMN IT I KNEW URIANGER WAS HOT UNDER THAT GOGGLE/HOOD COMBO.

    *ahem*

    Aside from that, RIP Unei. You were one of Final Fantasy's most memorable mentors, reduced to a one-off refrigerator woman for Nero's development.

    Which didn't even stick. CT continuity bubble confirmed.

    Which also means that Cid won't ever remember that the Allagans did actually have a means of traveling between planes of existence without destruction of the flesh (not that they knew it themselves), and Naelcat will forever be a what-if character at best.

    Also, not gonna rant about Minfilia, because with her parting words she proved she understood that the WoL MO is not just to do the impossible, but to come back safe as well. F'lhaminn thinks so, too, so she's definitely going to be back for the grand finale.
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    あっきれた。

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    @PArcher: In German its Papalymo that narrates the events

    @Shorty:
    Thanks for trying to explain about Light and Darkness. Maybe I really should just stop thinking of Light = good and Darkness = bad, but its really hard to do so, especially since the Ascians who are part of the Dark side are doing quite the evil things. I am interested how exactly we will be able to keep balance without freeing Zodiark. Maybe at the end of the story we will give up all of our crystals to help balance it, like we did now with the WoD's world?
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    Ugh...different narrators in different languages?

    Do wonder if Honoroit and Em will be traveling with us in 4.0 now (and now I don't know if it's Papalymo or him narrating in English. Gonna have to cutscene dive after work)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Ugh...different narrators in different languages?
    Not necessarily.
    As I said, it could have just sounded like Honoroit in Japanese because Eri Kitamura may have been doublecast (like how Mariya Ise is both Tataru and Nanamo). There aren't official credits for 3.X yet, so that's the most likely scenario if the other languages are saying it's clearly Papalymo.
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    あっきれた。

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    It was Papalymo in English, as well.
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    After some thought, I'm pulling out the crackpot.

    So balance is good. We need both Light and Dark to exist for a healthy star. That means we can't rid the multiverse of Zodiark entirely.
    That means we need, in some way, to appease Zodiark and make him play nice.

    So - if Hydaelyn is split into fragments and Zodiark wants them to return to one, why not let them? Fix the mirror that is broken by putting the shards back together again.

    Not in the Rejoining sense, which seems to absorb/eliminate them, but in the "worlds merge" sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    After some thought, I'm pulling out the crackpot.

    So balance is good. We need both Light and Dark to exist for a healthy star. That means we can't rid the multiverse of Zodiark entirely.
    That means we need, in some way, to appease Zodiark and make him play nice.

    So - if Hydaelyn is split into fragments and Zodiark wants them to return to one, why not let them? Fix the mirror that is broken by putting the shards back together again.

    Not in the Rejoining sense, which seems to absorb/eliminate them, but in the "worlds merge" sense.
    becuse if thay did that then we couldent drag this silly plot out for another 4 expansions :P.
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    Hmm, I think theorizing on the Zodiark/Hydaelyn meta is the most interesting thing in the lore right now.
    I'm sorry.

    I'm also quite bitter about how XI "solved" its unbalance problem in WotG (it didn't, not really), so I'm hoping XIV comes up with a better solution.

    Actually, thinking about it,
    Minfilia going over to the other world to restore an unbalance caused by the Goddess really is quite parallel to Lilisette.
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    @CyrilLucifer About the worlds

    Even if we need balance I wont trust the Ascians. Maybe Elidibus, if he finally opens his mouth and tells us his story..but all the other Ascians we have seen, were all about destroying Hydaelyn. I mean they already managed to make her weak enough, to not be able to talk with us. Thats not really balanced in my eyes.

    Maybe we could find balance by merging the worlds but we learned that this will mean the death off all the people of the other world. Not something I would want to do if there is maybe another way to do that. I am also not quite sure if we need Zodiark for it. The WoD said that it was him that started to become stronger and stronger thus forcing Hydaelyn to banish him. I am not sure how we can make him accept balance.

    I am also not sure if we truly need the Dark side to hold the balance. Hydaelyn was able to send Minfilia to the other world to take back the Light thus creating balance, so its seems that we may just need to make her stronger. (She is the one loosing right now) Or maybe we will be the ones that will create balance with our power (We have Light and Dark in us as human beings) Anyways I just hope that its more than "Welp the Ascian are mass murders but you need to help them now because balance"
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    One fundamental problem is that the rejoining literally kills everything on the shard world that is being rejoined and that seems to be the Ascians' method of choice. I sense Elidibus's argument is an 'ours is the only way to restore balance' and I suspect we will have a 'we will find another way' moment eventually. I also don't think the Ascians necessarily want a true balance in the way we want one. One thing I have been considering is the possibility Zodiark desired to effectively take over everything. Their was that old prophecy they gave us a while back which said 'in fear of the moon she cast her children to the seas'. This makes me wonder if mortals are an obstacle Zodiark has to remove to take over or if Zodiark's plan threatens mortals. It also raises the question what exactly Zodiark's 'Doom' is.

    Regardless I think the meta will be overall about trying to resolve that conflict that started this whole mess in the first place and I don't think we have even close to enough puzzle pieces to be able to guess fairly at that yet.
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