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    items no longer sellable.......

    come on... why
    The following items can no longer be sold:
    Pinwheel
    Realm Reborn Red
    Magicked Prism (Meteor Survivor)
    Starlight Barding

    what are you going to do with players who bought into it as an investment?
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    Force you to keep them as and use the goofy toy items they were always meant to be?
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    that doesnt answer the question as to why. not let other players who purchase alot of them turn around and sell it back to players who dont want to keep many?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jentaru View Post
    that doesnt answer the question as to why. not let other players who purchase alot of them turn around and sell it back to players who dont want to keep many?
    Well, your own fault for ripping off other players don't you think? Instead of going the easy way, work for your money, you remind me of a loan shark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    Well, your own fault for ripping off other players don't you think? Instead of going the easy way, work for your money, you remind me of a loan shark.
    But people wouldn't sell the item if there weren't a demand for it. It's a little funny that you're railing against someone who is simply providing a service which others desire; or do you think we ought to give the items away for free?

    Those of us who hoard event items in order to sell at a later date are sacrificing storage space - arguably the most precious commodity in this game - in order to do so, while those who want to buy these items from us are doing so at a premium in return for keeping their own storage uncluttered. What's the problem with that? You say people are selling items worth 200g for 20k, but if that were true, there would be no profit in it, because people wouldn't pay those prices; an item is worth exactly what another person is willing to pay for it, no more, no less.

    You compare sellers to loan sharks, but we're not forcing anyone to pay outlandish prices, or pressuring them into buying our products. We just make a guess as to what someone might be willing to pay for an item; if it sells, great. If it doesn't, well, lower the price and try again.
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    Last edited by Lukha; 09-28-2016 at 03:39 AM. Reason: post limits

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    sigh

    this is exactly what i was looking for in a reply thank you.... no one understands long term profit more than this person gets a thumbs up from me. this is what i am aggravated with due to the fact that when the item came out it didnt have a " market prohibited" status. thus cought my eye as an investment because of the fact that its only around for this event.... which. being a one time use item and the fact that its not (at the time) market prohibited meant profit because demand would go up. demand from the players. and to take that demand make it harder. and at the cost of the players who like me invested gil in a long term investment are now up the creek without a paddle. is kinda poor judgement on SE side because of the fact that there is no way for players like me to get my money back due to a poor judgement on SE side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jentaru View Post
    that doesnt answer the question as to why. not let other players who purchase alot of them turn around and sell it back to players who dont want to keep many?
    You speculated, and this time it failed. You live by the sword, and die by the sword.
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    is that not working for your money? wouldn't you say working for your money is ripping people off then. because someone doesnt want to take the time to make it themselves, or gather the material. your entitled to say how much your "hard work" is entitled to? this is just an example of your "work for it" if you dont see it that way you are not helping the cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jentaru View Post
    is that not working for your money? wouldn't you say working for your money is ripping people off then. because someone doesnt want to take the time to make it themselves, or gather the material. your entitled to say how much your "hard work" is entitled to? this is just an example of your "work for it" if you dont see it that way you are not helping the cause.
    No, buying 20 stacks of items from an NPC that is accessible to everyone while it is there is not working for your money. Or do you count the labour of carrying them? If so, I feel sorry for you, your poor inventory must be suffering.
    If you craft an item, you produce something that others are unable to make or purchase otherwise. If you don't see the difference here, I am not sure if it is worth answering you again (and I won't).

    Selling items worth 200 gil for 20k, an item that can be purchased easily by everyone, is not working for your money, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    If you craft an item, you produce something that others are unable to make or purchase otherwise.
    Uhm...that's exactly what you do if you sell event items, though - to sell something others are (now) unable to make or purchase otherwise. That's exactly what allows you these crazy profit margins, both for crafting items and for other stuff. Have you checked the emperor's new market? It's common that these go for several thousand despite costing 60 fucking gil on the vendor. And that's on Balmung, the land of undercutting as some call it.
    There is only one difference - you have to grind crafting first before you can screw people over. Screwing people over with event items is an option for everyone. Morally, though, the difference is really insignificant and becomes nil once your crafting investment is amortized through profits. At that point, both are doing the exact same thing.
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