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    thunderbreak's Avatar
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    Mini Boss
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 60

    Make Stone Sky Sea mandatory

    Treat it like an interview process. You don't pass then raids and ex primals won't be unlocked to begin with. This won't eliminate all the issues, but it'll at least give some people a wake up call, and block out people who's looking to be carried.

    The ilv requirement is too vague now due to materia melding. And there are way too many people who's qualified for ilv but will fail the contents anyways.

    If you are good enough for the content, you got nothing to worry about.

    If you fail the trial then go work on your skills and gear, when you get better come back and beat it.

    If you want to get better but just can't seem to do it, lots of us are here to help. Go talk to a mentor and ask for advice, and lets hit the dummy.

    If you are lazy, well this process is made just for you.

    And if most of us can't pass it, the devs messed up.

    Stone Sky Sea won't cover every job right now because is very basic at its stage. All the devs need to do is expand it. And if they can't or just don't know how to, that means they don't have a full understanding of the content they released. I mean If I was hiring for a job, it'll probably be a good idea for me to know what makes a person qualified for it, and construct my interview based on that.

    Every role should have it's own SSS trial. If you work at Microsoft I'm pretty sure their programmer have a different interview process compare to their marketing, or their human resources. And if you want to go into another position in your company, you will have to go through a proper interview process for that job, and provide your qualifications and credentials.

    The companies that don't practice this will have wrong people in the wrong places, which will weaken it's structure.

    And I'll quote myself once again, "This won't eliminate all the issues, but it'll at least give some people a wake up call, and block out people who's looking to be carried."

    All interviews are designed to weed out the people who can't qualify for bare minimum, if you can actually do the job or not is up to the probation period. Which is not what this post is about.
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    Last edited by thunderbreak; 09-27-2016 at 02:46 AM.

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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    This is a terrible idea.
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Faerie
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    I hope you are prepared for the flame storm you are about to receive!
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    I do not like the idea of making it mandatory. However, I could get behind making it optional.

    Apply achievements for completing each, and then have party finder and raid finder have options that the achievement must be unlocked for them to gain entry.
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    I would love this but sadly they won't do it because I bet majority of the playerbase cant even beat it :P
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    Dacien Valtin
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    The system we use now needs fixing because... What???

    I fail to see people being salty over some fails and wipes as something being broken. That's their problem not everyones.
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    erm what about healers?.......
    .....watches idea quickly crash and burn.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    This was already discussed a few months back in the forum and one question that arises is ofc: Do have to do it on every class again? Or can I finish SSS on my well geared paladin and slip in as dragoon (a class I have NO idea how to play, hit buttons, I guess?)?

    I am not so sure about mandatory because that seems way to complex to introduce (and also only really works for dps - tank and healers... not so much).

    However I would really like it if they kept pushing people to do it a bit more - right now, you do one quest and then... it disappears of the radar. Some sort of "warning" or encouragment would be nice - you unlock a new trial and the game offers a free teleport to try SSS first aswell as a note in DF telling you that you can try this thing in SSS to get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    erm what about healers?.......
    .....watches idea quickly crash and burn.
    Would be a decent way of getting healers who DPS if you made it an option as well.
    "Require all DPS to have completed SSS Y/N"
    "Require all Healers to have completed SSS Y/N"
    "Require all Tanks to have completed SSS Y/N"
    Let em choose.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    This was already discussed a few months back in the forum and one question that arises is ofc: Do have to do it on every class again? Or can I finish SSS on my well geared paladin and slip in as dragoon (a class I have NO idea how to play, hit buttons, I guess?)?
    I would make the achievement per job, and be required for that job.
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Maybe make it so glamour and items are tied to clearing Stone, Sky and Sea, this way its not mandatory for dungeons and raids, but if you like to have that minion, go clear with class X or Y. This would be incentive to some players to up their game and get those items.

    We all know how much this playerbase (myself included) love glamours and minions items.
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