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    I thought it had been made fairly clear that the "Ornate" gear was a Wondrous Tails reward (shown on JP screenshot as "SP" gear variant of the Heavy Metal Cuirass of Maiming (that is the Ornate Heavy Metal Cuirass of Maiming)). I can't see an ornate upgrade item in of itself anywhere in the notes to suggest otherwise.
    So the only difference between the (likely) rare Ornate Ironworks crafting gear and normal (crafted) Ironworks gear is that the Ornate variant has 5 100% slots, thus allowing sensible and affordable use of more Tier V materia to cap the stats on an item. For example the Ornate Ironworks Apron of Crafting is the same iLevel as the crafted Ironworks Apron of Crafting (i190). Therefore it's stats will be the same, meaning that prior to melding it is indeed inferior to the Augmented i200 Scrip gear. However following melds the i190 becomes superior to the i200, and with 5 100% slots for example:
    Ironworks Apron of Crafting HQ (Unmelded): 254/80/4.
    Augmented Hidekeep's Apron: 270/90/4.
    Ironworks Apron of Crafting HQ (2x Tier V (100%), 3x Tier IV (Overmelds)): 277/91/4.
    Ornate Ironworks Apron of Crafting HQ (5x Tier V (100%)): 287/94/4.

    Clearly the Ornate then becomes the most powerful because it is entirely cost-effective to exclusively use Tier V materia, hence making sense to keep it locked behind the heavy RNG inherent in Wondrous Tails (see: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...diculously-low )
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosalindDex View Post
    I thought it had been made fairly clear that the "Ornate" gear was a Wondrous Tails reward (shown on JP screenshot as "SP" gear variant of the Heavy Metal Cuirass of Maiming (that is the Ornate Heavy Metal Cuirass of Maiming)). I can't see an ornate upgrade item in of itself anywhere in the notes to suggest otherwise.
    So the only difference between the (likely) rare Ornate Ironworks crafting gear and normal (crafted) Ironworks gear is that the Ornate variant has 5 100% slots, thus allowing sensible and affordable use of more Tier V materia to cap the stats on an item. For example the Ornate Ironworks Apron of Crafting is the same iLevel as the crafted Ironworks Apron of Crafting (i190). Therefore it's stats will be the same, meaning that prior to melding it is indeed inferior to the Augmented i200 Scrip gear. However following melds the i190 becomes superior to the i200, and with 5 100% slots for example:
    Ironworks Apron of Crafting HQ (Unmelded): 254/80/4.
    Augmented Hidekeep's Apron: 270/90/4.
    Ironworks Apron of Crafting HQ (2x Tier V (100%), 3x Tier IV (Overmelds)): 277/91/4.
    Ornate Ironworks Apron of Crafting HQ (5x Tier V (100%)): 287/94/4.

    Clearly the Ornate then becomes the most powerful because it is entirely cost-effective to exclusively use Tier V materia, hence making sense to keep it locked behind the heavy RNG inherent in Wondrous Tails (see: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...diculously-low )
    if all you say is true then the first guy I was unjustly trolling is most correct.... most serious carfters already have all the current 190 gear and max melds; all but body & tools can already be capped so the only ornament worth investing in (if you didnt' already petameld V's on current) is the Apron.

    And if there is a glam difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    most serious carfters already have all the current 190 gear and max melds
    I doubt it. Some pieces are max'd sure, because the caps were low.
    But because there wasn't anything to craft that was all that difficult (before this patch anyway) it would be gil-foolish to penta-meld the pieces that can't be capped. And I suspect many "serious" crafters therefore didn't bother, instead choosing to save their money and materia for post-patch melds.

    Of course, if you just felt like blowing gil on bragging rights, and penta-melded your chest piece for that reason, hey, it's just a game, so why not?
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