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  1. #81
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    Balipu's Avatar
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    Presumably progression systems are in place to gear you up to start on the next tier of content. There is literally no point to the dungeon gear other than glamour. The dungeons throw tomes at you that provide higher ilvl gear - even the uncapped / previous tier tome. It's a bit of a shock that current dungeon gear drops do little to nothing to prepare a player to enter the next part of content.
    Next part of which content? It is more than enough to prepare you for the 3.5 dungeons. If you planned to do Alexander anyway, chances are you did enough Mhach or tomestone farming or EX Sephi to get yourself properly geared.

    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    Doing some calculations to see how many items / grand company seals it will cost to make a full set of IL 250 gear for 2 jobs.
    For WHM and NIN, to make the 250 gear and weapon it will take 114000 seals IF you get the items using Grand Company Seals and not from dungeons / the marketboard / ones you already have on hand.
    Even if you have 50,000 seals coming back from the patch and do all supply missions and NO squadron missions (Because those will require seals), it will still take a few days to get them all.
    Plus needing to get some mats (undoubtedly, but not yet proven) from tomestones, it will take a quite a while or a lot of money to get them all.

    It seems like a lot of work for IL 250 gear, which will be obsolete quickly seeing as the gear goes to at least 270 (and weapons 275)

    We also don't know if the items like "Teak Lumber" and "Scintillant Ingot" will be locked behind specialists or not.

    The 250 gear had better be a guaranteed Materia V after converting it...

    Crafters are guaranteed to make a lot of money if they really spend a LOT of time not only gathering / crafting / but also running dungeons for tomes.

    There is actually so much to craft, with new housing items and lots of people getting apartments, it's hard to decide what to do exactly.
    And whether it will be worth it to craft the "Hive" and "Round" items as well, seeing as they require 5 Battlecraft Demimateria III each, but they still just basically glamour.
    Well squadron missions might require seals, but we don't exactly know what they give in return. Maybe it's a gamble and you can get a lot more company seals as a reward if your squadron is successful. Especially if they have a high chemistry.
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    Last edited by Balipu; 09-26-2016 at 11:52 PM.

  2. #82
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    Akira_Tenshi's Avatar
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    Akira Tenshi
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Will EGI-glamour follow its father/mother the FC Primal summon feature?

    I will be looking forward to hearing more about this.
    It's due the same time as being able to use chocobos while queuing on DF....aka never.
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  3. #83
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    I came here to post this. I wish they would just let desynthesis die. I hate it so, so, so much.
    I am pretty sure that the notes said that you get them from spiritboding, I am too lazy to read the notes again though.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Again ? I still can't do most of the 60 crafts because I can't get the current books while i'm 60 and now we'll still be locked behind it ? again ?
    I know crafters want to be important but come on....we are not all omni crafters :/
    *sight*
    They already nerfed the 3.x books a lot, they are so much easier to get than the books from 2.x.
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  5. #85
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    Doing some calculations to see how many items / grand company seals it will cost to make a full set of IL 250 gear for 2 jobs.
    For WHM and NIN, to make the 250 gear and weapon it will take 114000 seals IF you get the items using Grand Company Seals and not from dungeons / the marketboard / ones you already have on hand.
    Even if you have 50,000 seals coming back from the patch and do all supply missions and NO squadron missions (Because those will require seals), it will still take a few days to get them all.
    Plus needing to get some mats (undoubtedly, but not yet proven) from tomestones, it will take a quite a while or a lot of money to get them all.

    It seems like a lot of work for IL 250 gear, which will be obsolete quickly seeing as the gear goes to at least 270 (and weapons 275)

    We also don't know if the items like "Teak Lumber" and "Scintillant Ingot" will be locked behind specialists or not.

    The 250 gear had better be a guaranteed Materia V after converting it...

    Crafters are guaranteed to make a lot of money if they really spend a LOT of time not only gathering / crafting / but also running dungeons for tomes.

    There is actually so much to craft, with new housing items and lots of people getting apartments, it's hard to decide what to do exactly.
    And whether it will be worth it to craft the "Hive" and "Round" items as well, seeing as they require 5 Battlecraft Demimateria III each, but they still just basically glamour.
    Well, good thing that I desynthed up to 70+ battlecraft III, have 98.000 GC seals on 2 companies and about 20k additional seals in form of gear.
    Also 100 allied seals = 3000ish GC seals and 100 centurio = even more, maybe 6000ish?

    And tombstones? Lolz... There are 1-2 weeks coming with "always bonus" on Sophia hm, both ex dungeons, creator normal 1-4.
    I already fear to have to queue while waiting in idleshire, because there will be so much tomes that i'll hit the cap if I forget to spens them
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 09-27-2016 at 12:08 AM.

  6. #86
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    I know I'm pretty late to this, but does anyone know when the patch will likely be implemented here in the US? (EST) I'm trying to schedule around in my day tomorrow.

    I'm looking at the patch notes but I can't seem to find a set time.
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  7. #87
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Next part of which content? It is more than enough to prepare you for the 3.5 dungeons. If you planned to do Alexander anyway, chances are you did enough Mhach or tomestone farming or EX Sephi to get yourself properly geared
    I'm not talking me. I'm talking progression in general and game design. Dungeons should progress into higher level content. Raiding in this case. Except the current dungeon gear doesn't provide much of a step into raiding. But those tomestones you get for doing year old or older dungeons? Oh yeah, that'll set you up just fine. There's no actual progression to dungeon gear in any meaningful way.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    I'm not talking me. I'm talking progression in general and game design. Dungeons should progress into higher level content. Raiding in this case. Except the current dungeon gear doesn't provide much of a step into raiding. But those tomestones you get for doing year old or older dungeons? Oh yeah, that'll set you up just fine. There's no actual progression to dungeon gear in any meaningful way.
    looks like you forgot that the latest dungeons give you the most tomestones for the latest tomestone gear.
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  9. #89
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    it can also mean "Once 3.4 is out, we start to work on it"
    Looks like you were right

    Yoshida "What happened to Egi (glamour)? Aaaaah, I see. Err here, you see, on the status report, we originally did say that if we can make it we would like to implement it on Patch 3.4, in the end it's going to be 3.5. And our advertise team apparently had an unchecked script confirmation and it got passed on to Nanjo-san's radio corner, so we're sorry on that. It kind of made it seem like we have already done with the Egi glamour...and made it look like it's going to be at 3.4....Yes, now we're working on the Egi (glamour) now."
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    looks like you forgot that the latest dungeons give you the most tomestones for the latest tomestone gear.
    No I didn't.
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