Is Endgame Just a Cycle of "Static Killers?"

[Auteur]

You can solo and catch up to the current ilvl if you want to raid.

Care to elaborate/give specifics? As they say "you know it when you see it:" if you call it something else, but it smells and acts like a static, it's still a static. And I've read a ton of bad stuff saying mid core is practically dead due to AS. Honestly, Alexander Savage is horrific P.R. for SE on FF14, any potential new player seeing that stuff early on likely will be turned off real quick, so much bad stuff on there and it reflects really really bad on this game.

[Zomkei]

[...]And I've read a ton of bad stuff saying mid core is practically dead due to AS.

That honestly depends on your server. For example, most of statics forming on Balmung consider themselves midcore, I rarely see hardcore statics on ours (forming at least).

[PArcher]

Care to elaborate/give specifics? As they say "you know it when you see it:" if you call it something else, but it smells and acts like a static, it's still a static. And I've read a ton of bad stuff saying mid core is practically dead due to AS. Honestly, Alexander Savage is horrific P.R. for SE on FF14, any potential new player seeing that stuff early on likely will be turned off real quick, so much bad stuff on there and it reflects really really bad on this game.

Except most of Alex Savage isn't even really hard in the current tier if you're competent at your job and can pay attention to mechanics. If you are at least above average, and can deal with some multi-tasking, you can do Savage.

Too many players are lazy, and want things handed to them. And they complain and complain. Amdapor Keep and Pharos Sirius are two prime examples of casual content getting nerfed because people are just *bad* and refuse to get better.

[Auteur]

Except most of Alex Savage isn't even really hard in the current tier if you're competent at your job and can pay attention to mechanics. If you are at least above average, and can deal with some multi-tasking, you can do Savage.

Too many players are lazy, and want things handed to them. And they complain and complain. Amdapor Keep and Pharos Sirius are two prime examples of casual content getting nerfed because people are just *bad* and refuse to get better.

Outside material like begs to differ, ex: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/73747720. Begs the question why does SE want to keep producing more AS raids that are going to further create horrendous P.R. and scare away new people from joining the game. Seems like a disastrous raid as a whole and should be scrapped entirely sooner rather than later.

[Zumi]

Care to elaborate/give specifics? As they say "you know it when you see it:" if you call it something else, but it smells and acts like a static, it's still a static. And I've read a ton of bad stuff saying mid core is practically dead due to AS. Honestly, Alexander Savage is horrific P.R. for SE on FF14, any potential new player seeing that stuff early on likely will be turned off real quick, so much bad stuff on there and it reflects really really bad on this game.

I'll tell you how to do it in the upcoming patch. You aren't level 60 yet so you are 59. What you do is when you hit 60 there a couple routes you can take. Either you can buy crafted gear which would get you instantly to ilvl 250 but that would probably be expensive. The other route is you run level 60 dungeons once you hit lv 60 for tomestones of lore, this will get you a 230 gear set. At that point you will want to run the 2, 24 man raids to upgrade your gear from 230 to 240. Once you are at 240 which is the current ilvl cap you will have to run the first alex normal 1-8. This will unlock alex normal 9-12 which will get you at 250 set after a few weeks. In the mean time you should be capping lore. However once you hit 240 you are good to join a raid group for the current tier of savage.

[Auteur]

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Thanks. The silver lining appears to be that Savage is entirely skippable and this method means I wouldn't be gated from any future content. Still not buying into Savage due to enormous amount of negative reviews and comments on it, and getting ahead of the "get gud you bad" comments I think SE has no interest in having new players try content that has caused a significant amount of the player base to quit and spawned a ton of complaints. I'll take a wait-and-see approach on Savage.

[Zomkei]

This all begs the question: is a static required to catch up? If so, I have a bad feeling about picking Gilgamesh since I already get a bad vibe from this server and it appears downright hostile to anyone new. Also, the referrals to "casuals and bads," that kind of mindset is concerning to me in playing in a matured MMO (it's been out for a few years). That's what I mean by a top-heavy player base; the vast majority of people are already at the end-endgame and with that comes certain undesirable characteristics for anyone new (ex: the country club mentality).

I could be wrong (and Gilgamesh could be different) but majority of players are not "end-game" (savage raiding), most are actually rather casual. Of course you will get groups that call casuals bad or won't take new people because to them it's too much of a pain, there's nothing you or anyone else can do about that mentality. By catch up, I mean getting the proper gear and skill level. You are not required to run previous tiers of savage as long as normal is cleared. Casual and mid core statics are a thing, and they may take a little longer but they're usually more relaxed as long as you can play your part.

[Ametrine]

Alexander in general is 100% optional. You can completely avoid the raids and still be able to keep current with the requirements for the main story and other extra content.

Unless you're hellbent on getting your main job to BiS, you simply don't need to ever enter the raids.

There are multible paths to get your gear to the needed iLVL to enter content. New crafted sets are about to drop, the more recent dungeons and 24 mans, and we're getting new tomestone gear, so you don't need to fear the game past 60.

Weapon wise, you can try the EX raids, Palace of the Dead, or the Anima quests, so you have options there, too.

[Taika]

Savage is the highest level of endgame, and even though it's mainly limited to statics because of the difficulty level (it makes the most sense to progress in each fight with the same group one phase at a time towards clear and then farm), there are also some party finder groups available for learning and clearing the fights. If you want to do Savage at level 60, the new one is coming out on Tuesday and there are probably many groups recruiting members for that. If you don't want to do it, there's other endgame content available at level 60, such as the normal Alexander (fully completable and farmable in Duty Finder), extreme primals (more challenging, will require party finder practice and then clear groups), and the new 24 person raid (will be coming out around 3 months after 3.4).

Alexander Gordias Savage (the first Alexander raid) was tuned to be very high difficulty because of high DPS checks and punishing mechanics, and since it was significantly more difficult than Coil, many previously successful Coil groups weren't able to progress through it as easily and broke apart. Alexander Midas Savage (the current one) didn't have as high DPS checks but instead had many more mechanics. The development team is aware of the issues related to both and Yoshi has said in an interview that the upcoming, last Alexander Savage will be easier, so that might encourage more people into raiding again. I guess we'll see in a few weeks after more groups have started trying.

[RyuSaarva]

no, that leve gil achievement is the highest level of endgame.