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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Opinions on lying about who has/hasn't cleared a fight?

    I'm trying to get some Nidhogg Extreme runs to get the bird, and it's taking quite a while to get in. I've let one person in and added to the PF message that it's a clear for one person. Right now, I have let two others who have not cleared, but have apparently gotten far enough to give them a shot (bomb phase). I'm desperate to get some runs in, so I told them to shush, because as far as everyone in the party knows, it's still clear for one.

    Going in now, hoping that we can clear after at most 2 wipes.
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    Croweyes's Avatar
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    Rouvaldr Zazan
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    I'm upfront about it, if i'm confident enough to join a bird farm for a clear I ask " Hey, haven't cleared it but i know the fight, could you ask your group if its cool? " they say yes, awesome, if not I don't get mad.

    Hell i got my sephirot clear in a bird farm, and we kept going.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    So, one of the hiding clearers had connection issues and died first dive. We kicked them if only because it wasn't something immediately remediable.
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    So, one of the hiding clearers had connection issues and died first dive. We kicked them if only because it wasn't something immediately remediable.
    Good to know that you are both honest and patient.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    It was going on for a while. D=

    And I've had people leave from sillier stuff. I upvoted you because your comment made me giggle.
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I'll probably sound like a jerk but deliberately lying to get a free clear in farm groups is a dick move no matter how you put it.

    You need a kill? Make your own PF for it or buy a carry. Don't try to leech from supposedly "experienced" players if you aint gonna tell them beforehand.

    I had so many farm groups ruined by that one guy not telling anyone and having no idea what to do. Yes we could have left and kicked that person but when you're already in the instance and ask who has the bonus without any replies, people get impatient and pull anyway. More often than not, to a certain wipe and the group will prematurely disband, thanks to that person.

    I may be a mentor but don't expect me to teach you anything when im in a farm party, for the sole reason that you are supposed to know the in and out of the fight already. And if you don't, you do not belong in a farm group.



    In the other hand if a player with bonus and enough experience in the fight asks nicely BEFORE we get in the instance and the majority of the group is voting in favor of letting him in, i will give him a chance.
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    Last edited by CUTS3R; 09-25-2016 at 05:04 AM.

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    Aevis Sylph
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    If someone can tell me how to what, where, and how; I will happily take the free broken Allag circuit boards and keep farming with them after they get their clear. Just because there is no bonus, it certainly doesn't mean a player was not carried. I tend to shy from random farm parties as of late because of people like this turning 1 or 2 shots into me leaving after 30 mins, because I want to accomplish something and have my fun too and dealing with someone hitting the floor constantly in Phase 1 of a fight is neither of these things.
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    Treason is punishable by death.

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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    True story: A few weeks ago we burned T1-T8 in a small group for a FC member who had just hit 60 a month ago and hadn't had a chance to do the content.

    Then we hit T9, which our group had struggled with last year (through the divebombs) and we kind of just stopped trying. One member of the FC had cleared through T13, but another three of us besides the new person also technically needed our T9 clear.

    So we took our new person in as a 5 man to teach him the meteors phase, and spent an hour ensuring he could do the meteor dance with the best of us.

    Then we put up a party finder with the following message: "T9 clear party for one of our FC members. We've practiced meteors and got them down to a science. Come get bonus poetics!"

    We entirely did not mention that another three of us also needed the clear! Fortunately, we picked up 2 more who needed clear, and 1 other mentor who wanted the bonus. And we burned it through in two tries.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    As expected, it went horribly. I'm too optimistic about these things LOL.

    On the bright side, after several swaps, we had one of the original newbs and a new newb and made it to last phase. Progress for them I guess.

    Farm parties often are worse than this anyway...
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    As expected, it went horribly. I'm too optimistic about these things LOL. Farm parties often are worse than this anyway...
    That's not an excuse to keep doing it.
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