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  1. #11
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I'm curious, I always asumed BLM mana regen would possibly break under Arrow.
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  2. #12
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    On your opener with arrow you might ran out of mana quickly like in 15sec but it allow you to go in ice then one tick go back to Fire then Fire IV and ice for BliIV

    Since Blm have real infinite mana it's never a problem

    And if you wait for a tick just cast a thunder
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    AST 101
    3.0 - Cursed Creation
    3.07 - Holy Revelation
    3.4 - Ultimate Consecration

  3. #13
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    Cherub's Avatar
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    Character
    Miasma Eschaton
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    The MP in single target situations is never a problem.
    But too much SS is really annoying on AoE situations since you might accidentally skip a mana tick. Still, arrow is very welcome since those FireIIs and Flares will be out much faster.
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  4. #14
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Character
    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    - Best Job to give Arrow to is BLM, hands down.
    BLMs will (should) click it off on trash because the extra speed prevents them from refreshing enough MP to do their rotation, resulting in a DPS loss, so don't throw it at a BLM on trash. If you use it on a BLM during a boss, however, you will be that BLMs new best friend.

    For the other jobs, too many Arrows can lead to early depletion of TP/MP. In a light party, I'd recommend burning it for an Extend. In full party content that will last longer than couple minutes, if there's no BLM, Redraw. If it's a short/easy fight, the resource depletion won't be an issue, so you can use it on someone based on the priorities the above posters have suggested.
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    Error 3102 Club, Order of the 52nd Hour

  5. #15
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    zuzu-bq's Avatar
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    Character
    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    BLMs will (should) click it off on trash because the extra speed prevents them from refreshing enough MP to do their rotation, resulting in a DPS loss, so don't throw it at a BLM on trash. If you use it on a BLM during a boss, however, you will be that BLMs new best friend.
    No we won't, that was even a topic for discussion on the BLM Sanctuary recently. Just add a Blizzard or Freeze cast before Fire III and we are good. That is both a DPS and a PPS increase.

    Though for trash in dungeons I'd give Arrow to myself as AST so I can Gravity faster. But that is mostly because I have no trust on Duty Finder people.
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  6. #16
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    Kibby's Avatar
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    Lyra Errai
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    BLMs will (should) click it off on trash because the extra speed prevents them from refreshing enough MP to do their rotation, resulting in a DPS loss, so don't throw it at a BLM on trash. If you use it on a BLM during a boss, however, you will be that BLMs new best friend.
    See, this is what confuses me. I've heard that arrows are great for BLMs, especially during aoe situations, and all of these conflicting opinions just confuses me even more. I don't understand how speed can be bad for BLMs when Ley Lines does just that.

    Also, I would be really irritated if someone just clicked off my card instead of telling me outright, that way I know not to continue giving them arrows.
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  7. #17
    Player
    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Not a single sane black mage will leyline in aoe rotation

    However then can learn to deal with it, too much cast speed, then use blizzard II
    (Since good caster are always in melee range XD)

    And also do never click off a card, first it's a buff qo don't throw it away
    Second it's rude !
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    AST 101
    3.0 - Cursed Creation
    3.07 - Holy Revelation
    3.4 - Ultimate Consecration

  8. #18
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    LilLemay's Avatar
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    Character
    Emily Hunter
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Obviously you always give the enhanced arrow to the ninja, so they just have no idea what they're doing
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  9. #19
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Character
    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    My Arrow Rules:
    1. Give it to BLM if they are doing their Solo Rotation. Never give it to them for their AoE Rotation, this is where they get thrown off.
    2. Melee. Especially MNK and NIN. It helps them get through their weapon combos quicker. Watch their TP though because Arrow can help drain it more.
    3. MCH. Especially during Wildfire.
    4. BRD. Helps with their cast times
    5. WAR. Helps push their DPS more
    6. Other Tanks. Helps them go through their Aggro-generating combos quicker if they are having aggro problems.
    7. Myself and the other healer.
    8. SMN. I read somewhere Arrow wasn't potent enough to make their Ruin III casts during Dreadwyrm Stance fast enough to add one more cast.
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  10. #20
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    FunkyBunch's Avatar
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    Imai Blackren
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
    See, this is what confuses me. I've heard that arrows are great for BLMs, especially during aoe situations, and all of these conflicting opinions just confuses me even more. I don't understand how speed can be bad for BLMs when Ley Lines does just that.

    Also, I would be really irritated if someone just clicked off my card instead of telling me outright, that way I know not to continue giving them arrows.
    Don't give a BLM arrow. You will literally F'up the AoE rotation because they won't get the full mana tick when casting F3 From Astral Ice. A BLM shouldn't be using Ley Lines in the AoE rotation unless they have really slow Spell Speed for the same reason. If F3 takes less than 3 seconds you miss out on an F2 or a Flare and are left scratching your head as to why.

    On a boss it's okay but I'd still rather not have it, because it's not really going to help with anything because the rotation is the rotation. You're not getting off an extra spell, you're potentially only screwing up how much MP I get back while casting B4 making me lose my full rotation on the refresh.
    You only want extra SS once you get to AF because you NEED your AI T1-B4-F3 to take at least 6 seconds to get full MP. Which is what it takes at around 1200 SS.
    It may help a bit when single targeting, but it's not really very helpful at all.
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    Last edited by FunkyBunch; 09-29-2016 at 02:03 AM.

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