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    Healer LB3 adjustments? Great! One more though...

    Could the range on healer LB3 be bumped up, or at least be given a visual indicator of its range as it's activating?

    The biggest problem I see with it lately isn't really the fact that it gives weakness, but rather that people have no visual indicator of its range like ranged DPS get with their LBs, and therefore you end up getting people not paying heed to where they activate it and end up only reviving half their party with it... this happens often enough to the point where I'm not sure people even realize its range is limited. That, or sometimes people are just spread so far apart that the healer can't possibly cover everyone with it.

    For the record, tanks get a 50y LB (whereas healers only get 30y). Sure, healers have a little more freedom to move than tanks usually do, but that doesn't exactly affect the positioning of one's party members, especially when they're usually dead and can't just {Gather together.} for that healer LB3.
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    With Magic and Range, the only ones who actually see the visual are the other players. It's mainly a notifier to let the tank know not to move the mobs from the location.

    This wouldn't work for Healer LB3 because it's pretty much an instant cast that activates around you. So there is no need to show a visual to something that occurs in a split second.
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    With Magic and Range, the only ones who actually see the visual are the other players. It's mainly a notifier to let the tank know not to move the mobs from the location.
    Well, with the caster LB at least, you have to pick the area it hits yourself (which is also a great boon that healer LB3 does not have), and you get to see the range it'll hit there, so that's not really an issue.

    This wouldn't work for Healer LB3 because it's pretty much an instant cast that activates around you. So there is no need to show a visual to something that occurs in a split second.
    Even if it was there for a split second, it would still help to teach players that "hey, the range on this isn't unlimited, maybe I should pay more attention to my positioning when I use it"

    That or they could just read the tooltip, but who does that? Moreover, it saying it has a 30y range doesn't necessarily give healers a good indication as to just how wide that is. I don't think healers even have any 30y range spells to practice with, and you can't practice with LBs when playing solo, obviously.

    But that's why I think they should just up the range on healer LB, preferably to match the range of tank LB, but even something like 40y would be okay too.
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    I'd prefer they remove the 10 second animation lock first.
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    I'd prefer they remove the 10 second animation lock first.
    If they were going to do that I figure they would have already.

    But the (IMO) lack of range of the healer LB3 is something that I feel is more likely to have just slipped through the cracks rather than an intentional design choice, which is why I was compelled to make a thread on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    With Magic and Range, the only ones who actually see the visual are the other players. It's mainly a notifier to let the tank know not to move the mobs from the location.

    This wouldn't work for Healer LB3 because it's pretty much an instant cast that activates around you. So there is no need to show a visual to something that occurs in a split second.
    They could simply make it so activating it gives you a ground marker centered on yourself that you activate just like any other ground marking ability.
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    To be honest, LB3 for a healer is such a last resort that it should be range independent. All party members should be revived, providing they are in the same "room" as the caster.
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    Player
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    To be honest, LB3 for a healer is such a last resort that it should be range independent. All party members should be revived, providing they are in the same "room" as the caster.
    Well, that'd be nice, but they probably have to have SOME sort of range limit on it.

    50y like what tanks have would suffice nicely in most cases -- that's pretty much approaching "you'd have to be trying to NOT hit someone with this" territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    I'd prefer they remove the 10 second animation lock first.
    so much this! few times I've fired off a LB3 only to be killed by the stupid animation lock shortly afterwards ><
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    Well it's either you use it and sacrifice yourself to the next attack or hold onto it for dear life trying to decide when to use it and you eat an attack anyway, causing a wipe.
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