RIP WHM

[mp-please]

Diurnal Astro has better raid mitigation utility.

Why are you comparing mitigation with raw healing?

Anyways.
The only issue that makes WHM lackluster on this raid patch is that there isn't enough damage going off that needs to be healed asap like there was for gordias and midas and some trials like nidex, does that invalidates WHM? No. It only makes fights more prone to be solo healed later on and/or gives both healers more space to dps. Either way like i pointed out on the rip sch thread, nobody cares about party composition other than world 1st groups and even those went with both whm/sch and ast/sch.

I do agree that they need to do something about WHM healing too much, mainly if they're going to make raid bosses hit like wet noodles, but saying a class is dead is just plain silly. Though do say WHM is dead, i want my holy back to 240 potency without damage fall off and hundreds of mp regen ticks like ast got over the past year.

[Rai_Takara]

Why are you comparing mitigation with raw healing

They go hand in hand.

Mitigation lowers the amount you have to heal. So an AST/SCH comp can mitigate more than a WHM/SCH comp and as such, don't need as much raw healing.

[technole]

They go hand in hand.

Mitigation lowers the amount you have to heal. So an AST/SCH comp can mitigate more than a WHM/SCH comp and as such, don't need as much raw healing.

Exactly, and considering the amount of darkness damage we had to deal with in Midas, Disable was many times better than Arcanist Virus. White Mage has nothing mitigation wise for this kind of damage like Swindler Bio, Justice's J-Kick, etc. Therefore AST making healing much less, in a sense also making up for our lower regen potency.

Combined mitigation couldn't be more prevalent in A8S. Many WHM/SCH groups used tank LB3 to mitigate the heaviest J-Kick during progression. AST/SCH mitigation with CU, Disable, Adlo Spread, and Soil negated such use.

[mp-please]

They go hand in hand.

Mitigation lowers the amount you have to heal. So an AST/SCH comp can mitigate more than a WHM/SCH comp and as such, don't need as much raw healing.

But it's also true if a buster doesn't go over your hp pool, mitigation won't be necessary. Main reason i miss 2.x raiding where stuff actually forced us to meld vit and mitigation on busters. Even t11 which was in the easiest coil tier needed virus, adlo and stoneskin to survive the phase swap after adds.

We're at the point that if a WHM is absolutely needed, AST/SCH won't be able to heal the fight. But because yoshida wants all healers to make part, we'll always have fights that don't work like 2.x ones where you needed mitigation just to survive and then raw heal to be topped off before the next buster. 3.0 and the bad decisions concerning healers is what put us in this situation.