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  1. #51
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    ToppeHatte's Avatar
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    Caprice Shiften
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    For those overly concerned about the last tier of gear "being outdated and DOA" thus making the effort to obtain it useless, I'd like to remind you that odd-tiered patches don't increase ilevel, and after that we'll be looking towards 4.0. 3.4 was the PERFECT time to start handing out gear as a reward, as we're going to be stuck with our new ilevels for at LEAST seven months, though more like eight or nine realistically.

    Even then, however, it's nine instances a week (at least two of which look like the standard roulettes) for a large handful of free tomestones at the very worst, I don't see a reason NOT to do it.
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    Last edited by ToppeHatte; 09-24-2016 at 11:57 PM.

  2. #52
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    The entitlement here is off the charts. I've been playing MMO's since they were text-based. D&D and Palladium rpgs before that. You'd have to have a terrible GM to just hand out the best stuff available just because you showed up.
    you don't get the token for free or simply by going to buy stuff, you need to go complet duty for earn this. however the reward is random. you can get something nice or simply bad reward for age. that how rng is played.
    in D&D a mj know when he must stop to use rng, if your player chain bad roll (what can happend often) you are forced to change your story for not make it frustrating. soo far SE is making tons of RNG content, but have fail to put in place anti frustration counter part.

    because i must remember you that we are customer first.... and when the customer is only showed content with high degree of frustration people don't stay or simply ignore this. saying right now that puting all behind rng is bad is not that strange, it's quite normal and must be listened. or this content will be another niche content that will soon only be used by less of 10% of the community.

    and we are not talking about the reward by itself, but about the system that will mostly lead people to be frustrated or simply not wanting to partake this sort of content. not everyone like gambling, it was said countless, personally i hate gambling and i'm tired to see that FF14 get more and more and more and more gambling system. japanese like this, but that not case of everyone and it will nice to remember that not everyone is from japan nor gambling lover.

    any effort you put into the game, deserve reward, the fact that the reward is behind another rng shit... because i need to call it like this... is tiring and make me not wanting to partake into it. you like gambling fine, but thanks to respect people that simply don't want more gambling, gold saucer is the place for gambling, we don't need more gambling stuff outside the gold saucer!

    ps: like said, i don't care for the reward, i'm only concerned by this will to put everything behind gambling junk. we need more stuff that effort = reward. because doing the 16 duty is an effort. make the reward after this a gambling is a bad idea! very bad idea!
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  3. #53
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I guess I won't bother for this piece of content. Everything else on there I can get easily anyway so dead content on arrival thanks SE People will do it for a bit then realize how much of a waste of time it is. Maybe if the chances were a bit higher I would have considered doing it.

    60 tomes? Why when I just do expert?
    Item for Tier 5 Materia? Well I got bunch of those during 3.3 so I will just continue doing 24 man each week
    Minion? Oh guess I can summon it once then never again.
    Poetics? Really... why would i need this at 60...

    In all honesty everything on there is just junk in my opinion for doing all those tasks except for the bottom stuff which he even said at least one person per week would get... whats the point of even make this if only 1-5 people would get it a week...

    If they made it so if you do everything on there you get a free 250 for the week it would be a good way to get entrance gear for raiding and those aiming for world first can craft it. Also a somewhat good catch up mechanic but i guess that is just too logical for SE.
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    Last edited by Remus; 09-25-2016 at 01:24 AM.

  4. #54
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    Lone-wolfe-02's Avatar
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    It's a good thing it's rare HQ crafted gear with 5 100% materia slots should never be handed out like candy.
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  5. #55
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    It's a good thing it's rare HQ crafted gear with 5 100% materia slots should never be handed out like candy.
    Remember what happened with Diadem, your argument is not well thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

  6. #56
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    I have to laugh at people working out the odds for this and completely failing to take into account the 'second chance' system which massively swings the odds in your favour...

    The fact is the odds aren't anywhere near as bad as many of you want to pretend they are because you'll likely get at least a few of those second chances somewhere along the line. Maybe wait and see how big a difference they make before you go into panic mode?
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  7. #57
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    I have to laugh at people working out the odds for this and completely failing to take into account the 'second chance' system which massively swings the odds in your favour...

    The fact is the odds aren't anywhere near as bad as many of you want to pretend they are because you'll likely get at least a few of those second chances somewhere along the line. Maybe wait and see how big a difference they make before you go into panic mode?
    I find it very strange how they don't allow you shuffle when you have 9/9 stamps even before you give it in and only allow you to do it only between 3-7.... hmm....
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  8. #58
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    I guess I won't bother for this piece of content.
    If that 3rd place prize icon is mhachi matter you would be crazy not to. You can end up without a single line, but with all the rerolling opportunities, and even without, it'd be pretty hard to not get at least one line.

    Moral of the story: wait till the content is at least out till you cry foul. This thread, man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Genaxx View Post
    Perhaps I should have said time instead of effort then, im not saying the content is difficult, its time consuming. And since this game is apparently designed for players who don't have that much time. I don't see much incentive for people to do it, since it will require; roulettes, dungeons, trials, Ex content, alexander, coil, raids and pvp.

    Edit:

    We obviously have different opinions on what is of value. I could make 20 mil with the time spent trying to get those 2 Grade V's worth 1 mil...
    You realize this content is going to create a ton of PF's for each fight involved right? Or maybe I should assume you hadn't thought of that since you say it's time consuming. And I've been an active crafter (less so now cause what do you do with over 200m?), so I know what it takes to make 20m. Don't kid yourself, doing 9 fights each 5-10 minutes long for 1m of materia and a shot at something that would save someone 5-50 or even more failed tier 5 overmeld attempts is worth it. Don't kid yourself over how fast 20m is made, let alone how boring it is to do it entirely through crafting.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 09-25-2016 at 02:20 AM.

  9. #59
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I love the completionist compulsion here - that, if they don't get ALL the rewards on the sheet, that it's worthless to do.

    I see Machi matter, I see 500 poetics (great for catching up on Anima questing.) I see Scripture tomestone bonuses (Less Roulettes you say? Sign me up!)

    There's plenty of rewards on this graph to do it weekly to not have to be gifted by an HQ crafted item.
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  10. #60
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I'm gonna ask this because something tells me that there is a bit of unintentional deception involved. Are we really gonna get gear with 5 open slots? I'm sorry but I think that is too good to be true no matter how gated it is
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