The chance of winning the 3 lines reward of Wondrous Tails is ridiculously low

[galbsadi]

I don't like Wondrous Tales RNG, so I don't do it. I think it's that simple really.

If I have any complaint, it's that WT is one of the few easy ways to get Cracked Crystals, as opposed to the 3 billion other ways to get Cracked Clusters. But that's more of a general annoyance than anything wholly WT related.

I....disagree. The top 4 items on WT are always dungeons that you'll end up doing in your roulettes anyhow, so WT is basically a freebie if you utilize the second chance points accordingly (and I always seem to have enough). Yes, 0.2% is low for the 3-line bonus (and I've never seen it), but 10.6% for the 2-line has happened a couple times, 58.5% for the one-line has happened more often than not, and the 100% for the 9-seals is basically free repairs for the week (as an omnicrafter it pays for more G7 demimateria than I'll use the entire week).

[Bacent]

Personally, Wondrous Tails is a waste of my time... complete waste of my time. I honestly tried it a various times since its implementation and the very best combination I could attain was this... (notice how the RNG went wacky when it realized I was about to make a full three lines)?

Oh no, the computer is against you /sarcasm. Did you see the odds for getting 3 lines that other people have posted? Did you? No? Go back and look. You're just blindly claiming something that you don't seem to grasp how it works. I've gotten anywhere from zero to two lines. Tried to get three, never did. Seen a couple of people I used to play with get it, so good for them.

But don't post 'oh notice how the RNG is against me because I was gonna win'. You do NOT know for a fact if you're gonna win. Hell, if 'you were about to make three lines', then take a better screenshot. You only have 8/9 stamps on your WT book.

[Kaurhz]

Mind you, I wouldn't have an issue with the extremely low chance, if the items were more sustained through a patch. Sorry, but nobody cares about Ornate gear. MGP is fine, hell, even materia is fine if bulk. But I would like more of a reason to bother going for 3 lines at any point in time. Add extremely rare minions, mounts, hairstyles, emotes, not Ornate gear.

[Nihility]

personally, I don't do it just because it's somehow implemented in a way that makes me forget i'm even doing it and the books always expire so i just stopped trying completely.

But... the ornate gear from 3-lines is pretty amazing stuff. It definitely should be super rare
You get the best crafting/gathering gear available plus it's got five open slots which means you can use five tier 6 materia in it.
Not only does it save millions in lost overmeld attempts but the final product is much stronger as well

Granted I stopped caring so maybe still not true but they used to update it as well so the rewards remained best in slot as new gear gets released as well.


Most of the real rewards are 2-line which is still a huge pain the butt. The super crafting gear is honestly just superfluous as cool as it is

[Hamada]

I....disagree. The top 4 items on WT are always dungeons that you'll end up doing in your roulettes anyhow, so WT is basically a freebie if you utilize the second chance points accordingly (and I always seem to have enough). Yes, 0.2% is low for the 3-line bonus (and I've never seen it), but 10.6% for the 2-line has happened a couple times, 58.5% for the one-line has happened more often than not, and the 100% for the 9-seals is basically free repairs for the week (as an omnicrafter it pays for more G7 demimateria than I'll use the entire week).

That is not what Berteaux is talking about. You are not "disagreeing" with them since what you think is being said, is not what is being said.

What they are saying is, getting the DoW/DoM reward for VI materia, cracked clusters, there is a lot of options to get them, including WT, where DoL/DoH, has very FEW resources for them and a "reasonable" way to get VI materia was just added not to long ago. It is very annoying that in general, they hand out DoW/DoM materia like water, where DoL/DoH is like finding water in the sierra desert.

For the 3 line thing, the reward for the 5 slot materia gear is is very underwhelming for the rarity. For crafting and gathering, because how caps work, the difference between them and normal gear is almost nonexistent and that tiny af difference makes no impact for crafting rotations.

[Emstidor]

For the 3 line thing, the reward for the 5 slot materia gear is is very underwhelming for the rarity. For crafting and gathering, because how caps work, the difference between them and normal gear is almost nonexistent and that tiny af difference makes no impact for crafting rotations.

This is like saying rare crafting mats shouldn't be in Treasure Map chests because DoW/DoM players can't use them.

You're forgetting that these pieces are marketable, and I've never heard a noncrafter complain about scoring three lines because these pieces will sell for eight-figure sums quite regularly.

Edit: If that amount of gil is trivial or unexciting to you, then you're entitled to your opinion, but realize that you're in the minority on that viewpoint. Most players are still excited by high-value items for a reason.

[Hamada]

This is like saying rare crafting mats shouldn't be in Treasure Map chests because DoW/DoM players can't use them.

You're forgetting that these pieces are marketable, and I've never heard a noncrafter complain about scoring three lines because these pieces will sell for eight-figure sums quite regularly.

Edit: If that amount of gil is trivial or unexciting to you, then you're entitled to your opinion, but realize that you're in the minority on that viewpoint. Most players are still excited by high-value items for a reason.

You do realize your missing the point? You can make anything artificially rare and sell a lot for the sake of doing so, because it is rare. That has NOTHING to do with my post. All I was saying stat wise (remember SE remarked.. or was it yoshi -p? I do not remember) but back when these where newer, someone complained about the chance of getting 3 lines to yoshi-p saying something like they had to make these rare because they are "powerful" (something to this effect) This is clearly not the case, even more so with DoL/DoH who really do not benefit at all from them, stat wise. It is just a rare trophy that people put an insane value on for the sake of being rare, and again I repeat, has nothing to do with the post you are quoting.

[Rymm]

Mind you, I wouldn't have an issue with the extremely low chance, if the items were more sustained through a patch. Sorry, but nobody cares about Ornate gear. MGP is fine, hell, even materia is fine if bulk. But I would like more of a reason to bother going for 3 lines at any point in time. Add extremely rare minions, mounts, hairstyles, emotes, not Ornate gear.

If they made the rewards too good, the forums would be flooded with more "it's too haaaaard to get 3 lines" whine threads. I like the way they did it now where it's a nice little bonus if you manage to make some lines but not a huge let-down if you don't get the incredibly rare 3.

[Ramesses]

Oh no, the computer is against you /sarcasm. Did you see the odds for getting 3 lines that other people have posted? Did you? No? Go back and look. You're just blindly claiming something that you don't seem to grasp how it works. I've gotten anywhere from zero to two lines. Tried to get three, never did. Seen a couple of people I used to play with get it, so good for them.

But don't post 'oh notice how the RNG is against me because I was gonna win'. You do NOT know for a fact if you're gonna win. Hell, if 'you were about to make three lines', then take a better screenshot. You only have 8/9 stamps on your WT book.

*(Gives a wry smile at the sudden aggression)*

...Have we met?

[Kaurhz]

If they made the rewards too good, the forums would be flooded with more "it's too haaaaard to get 3 lines" whine threads. I like the way they did it now where it's a nice little bonus if you manage to make some lines but not a huge let-down if you don't get the incredibly rare 3.

Unfortunately, people would just have to suck it up. I'd personally much rather deal with the disappointment of getting 1, or 2 lines than deal with getting items that are practically worthless after 2 weeks into the relevant patch. If you want the good stuff, it needs to be locked behind something. Again, rather have a horde of decent items locked behind this, than items which lose their value incredibly quickly.

I, like many rarely even do this anymore, simply because the items are, for the most part pretty worthless, or rather.. Not worth going out of my way to try and do.