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  1. 09-23-2016 08:31 PM

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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Tanks mitigating damage as their best asset isn't exactly part of the FFXIV meta. You seem to get more out of a heavy hitting Tank that needs more healing than a Tank that can take hits giving healers time to DD. So it's natural that they want to try and give PLD that DD potential since no matter how much you add to their dmg mitigation, it's worthless if their changes don't balance the dmg output of the party to put them on par with WAR/DRK.
    They're also ignoring the fact that PLD doesn't mitigate more than WAR does. It's actually a bit less.
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Is it really the only way they can think of to fix PLD ?
    I don't understand...PLD is supposed to be "the tank that mitigates" and WAR, "the tank that does damage", yet all they do to make PLD more desirable is to improve its raw DPS...
    While true to some extent, the real design philosophy is that PLD uses direct mitigation outside of attacks, and WAR uses attacks to mitigate. (inner beast and blood bath being examples, where you need to land an attack, in order to perform, where PLD has far more moves that dont require you to attack to do them.) Their increased DPS was more so a mistake in their design in the OT position, before tank swaps became a thing.

    I think they were too focused on giving people what they wanted for the expansion (a DPS stance and DPS moves for that stance), they sorta over jumped their mark.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Astarotte Niuhali
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    /facepalm

    Tons of use in PuGs
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    Birdy Reene
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    I didn't see the native American lookin gear listed? is it because itsj ust prelimary notes? or u think it was the new vanu venu items?
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    Lisotte Poena
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    Realised I'm probably not going to be able to go into Creator Savage day 1 what with the 245 ilvl requirement
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Realised I'm probably not going to be able to go into Creator Savage day 1 what with the 245 ilvl requirement
    Get a couple pieces of crafted gear!
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Realised I'm probably not going to be able to go into Creator Savage day 1 what with the 245 ilvl requirement
    You don't need to meet the item level if you queue as a full party, so just use party finder for the first few days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Tanks mitigating damage as their best asset isn't exactly part of the FFXIV meta. You seem to get more out of a heavy hitting Tank that needs more healing than a Tank that can take hits giving healers time to DD. So it's natural that they want to try and give PLD that DD potential since no matter how much you add to their dmg mitigation, it's worthless if their changes don't balance the dmg output of the party to put them on par with WAR/DRK.
    You have other means to do it than just a flat out potency increase.
    For example, they could have increased their mitigation kit to lessen the need for tank stance, thus increasing the personal DPS. But I admit it would have kept PLD as an "MT".
    I wonder if it will be interesting to have a PLD as an OT and a WAR as MT now, since PLD's gap between ShO and SwO is widen again.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 09-23-2016 at 08:32 PM.

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    This will be Wounderous Trails for everyone when it comes out, it's 9 stamps total.

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    Sifrid Extan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashewalker View Post
    This will be Wounderous Trails for everyone when it comes out, it's 9 stamps total.

    From what it says in the patch notes, it's completely random what stamps you get, and since apparently they can only go in specific spots, that would mean it's up to RNG how many lines you get.
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