Yoshi-P on Character Growth

[ADVSS]

Once that question comes up, you should be questioning why you're even playing the game anymore. A question that the devs should be hoping their players aren't asking themselves.

nothing wrong with taking 3 months off right? I mean the 3 month grind to get relic to 250 will probably take 2 days when 3.48 or 3.5 comes out, i mean the devs clearly think its ok to take a long break, cause everything will be handed to you as soon as you log back in, mostly. i guess.

[Reynhart]

For me, the whole explanation is stupid...

The same applies to how, having elements like ice and fire on your weapon and equipment is rather meaningless with our game design. If the game system has elements as a huge factor and let's say you face a boss who is weak against a certain element. Those who don't have the actions or weapons that are effective will need to start back from re-learning a certain move or go get that fire weapon that melts the boss.

Instead of that, the game has an ilvl and accuracy requirements, so those who don't have proper gear will need to build a whole new set...reaaaaaly different.
Except that, in the current systemt you can just throw away your old gear. With horizontal progression, your "Fire weapon" may be useful several patches later.

If this continues to go on, there will be a moment where you lose focus and at one point you collapse. That sort of game system is highly addictive with fear and uplift alongside each other with the merit where it's harder to get bored because it forces you to continue spending most of your time. But, people nowadays don't have that time anymore.

Doing the Anima also takes a lot of time. And he admitted that Anima weapons are for people who can't overcome the difficulty of raids, so, he still expect his "less skilled" players to "have enough time".

This is just an imagination, but 10 years into the future we might shift into a team consisted of members who all truly love FFXIV and we might take our risk to release an expansion with that kind of character development involved in it, but at the moment it's impossible.

Don't worry, you won't have to wait for ten years. Another tome-gathering-content-facerolling expansion will bore far enough players for the game to change direction or die.

Even if we did change our policy, starting with new players having a hard time getting into the game, a majority of the current players will also be like "I was only able to keep playing because of the current system!"

New players won't have a "hard time", they'll slowly learn while gathering levels. And as long as you can progress bit by bit, the amount of time you can put in the game doesn't matter...We don't need the system to be like old FFXI where you can only progress in content if you have 3 hours straight.

Not having an endless element to build on your character is intentional and it's designed so you build up your item level instead.

Building item level is also an "endless" system...

Of course, we do understand you will get bored of refreshing your item level at one point, but no matter what sort of game desing you choose, you'll eventually get bored.

"You will be bored by any system in the long run, so let's keep the one you're already bored with"...yep, totally makes sense.
Or maybe they could, you know...build a different system for each expansion, so by the time you get bored, the system will change...

[ADVSS]

For me, the whole explanation is stupid...


"You will be bored by any system in the long run, so let's keep the one you're already bored with"...yep, totally makes sense.
Or maybe they could, you know...build a different system for each expansion, so by the time you get bored, the system will change...

had to snip, but all your points cracked me up, totally how i see it at this point. Honestly, I feel like the JP community might be a bit at unease from this as well, but i dont nihongo so yeah not sure how they feel from this interview.

[Yasuhiro]

"You will be bored by any system in the long run, so let's keep the one you're already bored with"...yep, totally makes sense.
Or maybe they could, you know...build a different system for each expansion, so by the time you get bored, the system will change...

Good point, that was some odd damage control on Yoshi-P's behalf.

[SendohJin]

"You will be bored by any system in the long run, so let's keep the one you're already bored with"...yep, totally makes sense.
Or maybe they could, you know...build a different system for each expansion, so by the time you get bored, the system will change...

you have no idea the cost of doing that. and what if the new system bombs like Diadem?

[Khemorex]

even if they change the system , u will still come here cry that ur bored everytime so whats the point in changing the system :P

id rather have new dungeons and stuff every 3 months :P

[ADVSS]

even if they change the system , u will still come here cry that ur bored everytime so whats the point in changing the system :P

id rather have new dungeons and stuff every 3 months :P

weve decided to rework lords of verminion this patch, here some new level 1 mastercrafter glamours to craft for exhorbitant amounts of gil, old dungeon(hard) mode and a ex primal to beat around for 3 months. Feel free to unsub after you clear it in a week, as we got no new gear for 6 months thats relevamt! Please look forward to it!

He definitely makes some valid points. I agree and could definitely see how creating mechanics which are more difficcult to catcch up with could ruin this game. Want to join Savage runs? Sorry, but you haven't been playing 8 hours everyday for the last 3 years, you are simply underleveled.

Because I assume the relevant endgame content would be tuned towards that, otherwise all experienced players would ragequit as all content that is released or ever will be released would be too ez.

NO FIRST TIME BONUS!!!!!!!

[Khemorex]

weve decided to rework lords of verminion this patch, here some new level 1 mastercrafter glamours to craft for exhorbitant amounts of gil, old dungeon(hard) mode and a ex primal to beat around for 3 months. Feel free to unsub after you clear it in a week, as we got no new gear for 6 months thats relevamt! Please look forward to it!



NO FIRST TIME BONUS!!!!!!!

the time im gona unsub is when my rl dosnt allow me to play like i want anymore :P

[Reynhart]

even if they change the system , u will still come here cry that ur bored everytime so whats the point in changing the system :P

Imagine this :
ARR comes, the tomestone system is introduced, it's new (for this game, coming from 1.0), it's fresh. 2 years later, I'm starting to get bored...and then HW comes, with a whole new gearing system. It's fresh, it's new...2 years later, I'm starting to get bored, and then the new expansion come, etc...etc...

Instead, we have ARR with the tome system, boring after 2 years...HW with the same system, incredibly boring after 2 more years...and the next expansion will probably still use the tomestone system.

A new gearing system is like having new zones or new jobs. I'm sure you would have been bored if HW made you stroll into the same old zones for 2 more years.

He definitely makes some valid points. I agree and could definitely see how creating mechanics which are more difficcult to catcch up with could ruin this game. Want to join Savage runs? Sorry, but you haven't been playing 8 hours everyday for the last 3 years, you are simply underleveled.

Horizontal progression is not a "catch up" mechanic. Let's say you needed an Ice weapon for Gordias Savage(For whatever reason)...but this NEW Fire Weapon for Midas Savage...Wether you participate in Gordias or not, you can obtain the Fire Weapon and completely skip the Ice Weapon. And while you're bored 3.2, you can always comes back to get this Ice Weapon that could be useful for Creator or even the next raid.

As we are now, you need this Fire Weapon (i.e new tome gear), but you'll never go back to the Ice weapon even if you have nothing new to do.

[Lunavi]

He definitely makes some valid points. I agree and could definitely see how creating mechanics which are more difficcult to catcch up with could ruin this game. Want to join Savage runs? Sorry, but you haven't been playing 8 hours everyday for the last 3 years, you are simply underleveled.

Because I assume the relevant endgame content would be tuned towards that, otherwise all experienced players would ragequit as all content that is released or ever will be released would be too ez.