Consider: Urth's Fount in Trials: Roulette

[cyborgmermaid]

Sure, Odin was a beast of a fight back in 2.5 when it was released, but nowadays? Most of the Heavensward primals trump him in difficulty, even with Odin's level sync.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

You really overstimate the people in DF...

[RosalindDex]

It's in the mentor roulette. Some groups can be taught the mechanics, but still fail the DPS check massively and/or the heal/dps check during the Gungnir phase. I have had the odd group manage it, but overall it is EX difficulty and they're not in the Trials Roulette either.

[RyuSaarva]

it's too hard for most people even with the way too high synced item level, most people would just leave as soon as they notice which trial they are facing, you can have fun with old extreme primals in mentor roulette.

[Tint]

Sure, Odin was a beast of a fight back in 2.5 when it was released, but nowadays? Most of the Heavensward primals trump him in difficulty, even with Odin's level sync.

i cleared odin in 2.5 blind in the first try - we all were new. no, odin was never a beast of a fight.

we already had ilvl 130 back then, the highest ilvl available on lvl 50. the mechanics of odin are not the problem - but you have to play your class perfectly. most of the DF people are not able to do so.

[Ametrine]

Wait.

Odin isn't in the roulette, but Sephirot and Gilgemesh is?

[Tint]

Wait.

Odin isn't in the roulette, but Sephirot and Gilgemesh is?

only the story mode of sephirot.

odin and ultima hm are not part of the roulette because they may be easier than an ex primal fight, but still more difficult than the story-mode primals.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Odin isn't exactly one of the easiest Trial fights and doesn't exactly allow too much messing up, and a lot of people like to leave after a single wipe in the Trial Roulette...

While beating Odin would be a requirement for it to appear there on the Roulette I'd guess, I don't think I want it there because of how people tend to act in the Roulette.