Class Reform info.

[Sorel]

Another thought that occured to me, I think they have cross class skills balanced too low. Unless they make every class a lot more versatile on its own low level, only getting 3 cross class abilities will totally gimp soloing on some classes until you get high level, at which point soloing is less required.

If I may add yet another thought.

At Level 50, the maximum number of cross-class actions you can equip is 10.
At Level 30, a class learns it's 10th action.

Therefore, the bare minimum a Level 50 character should level a secondary class is 30 in order to "mathematically" not be gimp. That doesn't necessarily mean those 10 actions from the secondary class are particularly desirable. It's just the minimum. In essence this creates a sub-class system similar to the sub-job system from FFXI (e.g. CNJ50/THM30). The primary difference being that it allow for more granular sub-classing of actions (sub-actions??), for increased customization.

[Starlord]

If I may add yet another thought.

At Level 50, the maximum number of cross-class actions you can equip is 10.
At Level 30, a class learns it's 10th action.

Therefore, the bare minimum a Level 50 character should level a secondary class is 30 in order to "mathematically" not be gimp. That doesn't necessarily mean those 10 actions from the secondary class are particularly desirable. It's just the minimum. In essence this creates a sub-class system similar to the sub-job system from FFXI (e.g. CNJ50/THM30). The primary difference being that it allow for more granular sub-classing of actions (sub-actions??), for increased customization.

Another words... they are kinda bringing back subjobs.. in a way..

[Alerith]

Another words... they are kinda bringing back subjobs.. in a way..

One could argue that they've always been in place and that the armory system as a whole has been a system based around reliance on other jobs other than your main.

[Starlord]

One could argue that they've always been in place and that the armory system as a whole has been a system based around reliance on other jobs other than your main.

True.. but they are making the sub-classes more restrictive in terms of how many action from the sub class you can put on your main. So in a since they are making it a true sub-class/job mechinics

[Sorel]

If I may add yet another thought.

At Level 50, the maximum number of cross-class actions you can equip is 10.
At Level 30, a class learns it's 10th action.

Therefore, the bare minimum a Level 50 character should level a secondary class is 30 in order to "mathematically" not be gimp. That doesn't necessarily mean those 10 actions from the secondary class are particularly desirable. It's just the minimum. In essence this creates a sub-class system similar to the sub-job system from FFXI (e.g. CNJ50/THM30). The primary difference being that it allow for more granular sub-classing of actions (sub-actions??), for increased customization.

Another words... they are kinda bringing back subjobs.. in a way..

One could argue that they've always been in place and that the armory system as a whole has been a system based around reliance on other jobs other than your main.

True.. but they are making the sub-classes more restrictive in terms of how many action from the sub class you can put on your main. So in a since they are making it a true sub-class/job mechinics

If they can get the balance right, this would be very nice. In FFXI, I always wanted to have just one or two abilities from a 3rd sub-job. This new system would allow you to do just that, just to a slightly more limited degree. Only actions, not traits.

So a character would have to be a GLA to have Ambidexterity, because traits are not cross-classable. No other class will ever have that trait, no matter how many GLA actions they cross-class to it. I'm not sure, but I think that has a certain appeal.

[Physic]

If they can get the balance right, this would be very nice. In FFXI, I always wanted to have just one or two abilities from a 3rd sub-job. This new system would allow you to do just that, just to a slightly more limited degree. Only actions, not traits.

So a character would have to be a GLA to have Ambidexterity, because traits are not cross-classable. No other class will ever have that trait, no matter how many GLA actions they cross-class to it. I'm not sure, but I think that has a certain appeal.

alls i can still say to that is fleet of foot is way to big to be lancer only.

Some of these issues may be solved with their class skill plans, but until i see it, i have to say there is some major hurdles here. Overall the plan isnt absolutely bad, but it has some decent sized issues imo