Goddess Sophia Lore posted.

[Nestama]

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Considering the Hyur isn't wearing the head piece, I think it's safe to assume it could be Meracydian gear. This can imply that Glasya and Scylla were either natives to the city Sophia ruled and betrayed her in one way or another, or the two fooled Sophia into believing they were harbingers of peace.

Is there any lore behind Scylla and Glasya? Also just noticed the Elezen in the trailer is wearing Phlegethon gear. From his Triple Triad card: "Phlegethon was a hero of the rebellion that sought to oppose the rule of Allag in the twilight of the Third Astral Era. After his capture by the technologist Amon, the valiant general was subjected to hideous experiments, his body altered and mind broken, fated to become an eternal guardian of the Crystal Tower." Hmmm... maybe I'm partially wrong and Phlegethon, Scylla and Glasya are originally from Meracydia and chose to rebel against the Allag, rather than assimilate.

[Nalien]

Considering the Hyur isn't wearing the head piece, I think it's safe to assume it could be Meracydian gear. This can imply that Glasya and Scylla were either natives to the city Sophia ruled and betrayed her in one way or another, or the two fooled Sophia into believing they were harbingers of peace.

It still has additional heads on the shoulder, and paws running down the side... Still clearly inspired by the abomination Scylla was turned into IMO, which I think rules out an origin in Meracydia... Unless Scylla was just always like that, but I got more of an impression that Amon took a her and her loyal hounds and just fused them for lawls...

Shame there isn't really any lore on the Syrcus Tower bosses, I enjoyed the little tidbit we got from Rammbroes on Phlegethon, always wanted that to continue with more of the bosses, but no such luck with the minor bosses... Always a chance the lore book could delve deeper into their stories I guess... Beyond that I guess Triple Triad cards can offer something, though some of the more interesting cards just end up getting a character quote instead of anything interesting...

I just want to know just what nation Scylla was Queen of?

Was she even a queen? The regular one we fight in Syrcus Tower, the one with actual character and seemingly some back story, was just Scylla... Queen Scylla was a mini-boss in World of Darkness... Not sure why the World of Darkness clone (?) gets to be queen exactly...

[myahele]

Based on Glasya's battle dialogue, he seems to be loyal to the Empire and Amon; he seems to be proud of his power given to him by Amon.

Scylla on the other hand seems more like her transformation was forced on her and was relieved to finally die. I just want to know just what nation Scylla was Queen of? I figured that she may have been the reigning monarch of the Empire prior to Xande's resurrection by Amon and was transformed as punishment for allowing the Empire to be so weak.But if that was the case shouldn't she be called "Empress" instead?

Her being a captured Queen of Sophia's nation is a possibility. That is what they did with Tiamat, more or less.

[swiss_Momo]

Scylla on the other hand seems more like her transformation was forced on her and was relieved to finally die. I just want to know just what nation Scylla was Queen of? I figured that she may have been the reigning monarch of the Empire prior to Xande's resurrection by Amon and was transformed as punishment for allowing the Empire to be so weak.But if that was the case shouldn't she be called "Empress" instead?

It's obviously been a while since I did the CT quest chain, but as far as I recall they mentioned that Scylla was indeed the last regent of Allag before Xande's resurrection. (And who knows, maybe Allag had changed from an empire into a monarchy in the meantime? ┐(￣ヮ￣)┌ )

[Frederick22]

Is not out of the posibilitie that Glasya could have being brainshowed too.

I agree, it's weird it was choosed to be called queen.

It seems it all goes to that either they were meracydian or they just copied their gears.

[Griffey]

Here's a crazy thought. It says in the preview

Defeat the wakened thralls and slay the stirring Goddess, lest her divine "balance" bring all the world to equal ruin!

So these adds must be actual Meracydians, probably tempered judging by their glowing appearance. So maybe yes, Phlegethon et al from Syrcus Tower are rebel Meracydian heroes augmented and doomed to defend the Crystal Tower for eternity.

A bit weird though they would let them keep their own armour. Maybe it's Allagan slave apparel?

I really like the idea that Scylla is a Meracydian queen or priestess turned chimera. What a horrible fate.

[Nalien]

So these adds must be actual Meracydians

I disagree. A thrall is just a tempered individual, that gives no reference of their point of origin... It's likely they're from Meracydia, but it's also entirely possible they're just Allagan clones who've been tempered for the sake of research, or something like that... Could just as easily be cloned versions of Phlegethon/Glasya/Scylla that were used to battle in Meracydia and wound up getting tempered in the battle...

[Griffey]

I disagree. A thrall is just a tempered individual, that gives no reference of their point of origin... It's likely they're from Meracydia, but it's also entirely possible they're just Allagan clones who've been tempered for the sake of research, or something like that...

The thought had crossed my mind, it just seems that as far as we know, Allag was pretty much all Hyur and yet we see a tempered Hyur, elezen and rogey in the screenshots which goes with Sophia's multi-racial civilisation. Of course it would make more sense if they were just Allag clones and given Allagan uniforms, but a lala can dream...

[AstralKaos]

My head-canon on the whole Eikon/Primal thing is that an Eikon is an ancient being of monstrous aetheric power, that has been powered to even greater strength through years of worship; seen as a God/Goddess in the eyes of their believers. They are an almost perfect representation of their original self, being of worship or concept... if not, then they are indeed the actual original thing. They may have been kind, non-malevolent as well, much like Ramuh is to his Sylphs, thus not regarded in fear by the people or tree people, etc etc of Meracydia. Don't need (from what we can tell) to be sustained due to its immense power and being an original being with its own original aetheric source.

Whereas a primal is a weaker being, a bastardization of the original thing, a version very different that is viewed in that way because of their followers. The thing might have been a thing in its previous, original self, or it is or was something different entirely (theory on Garuda being an Allagan scientist) but now they are projections of a belief and thus, don't represent the original in power nor appearance. Needs to be sustained, due to being nothing short of an aetheric conjuring of something.

[Balipu]

My head-canon on the whole Eikon/Primal thing is that an Eikon is an ancient being of monstrous aetheric power, that has been powered to even greater strength through years of worship; seen as a God/Goddess in the eyes of their believers..

Whereas a primal is a weaker being, a bastardization of the original thing, a version very different that is viewed in that way because of their followers.

Sooo Eikons are the originals who weren't summoned with aether but actually existed? That's an interesting idea. And nothing actually contradicts this. They might need prayer to stay alive, but offical only claims that Sephiroth was created from a tree with prayer. No mention of aether or crystals. Also, no summoning. It sounds like they prayed to the tree that was still there, to come alive. And we have absolutely no idea where Zantetsuken came from. The Odin pet says it belonged to an Au Ra, but even that is just a theory.

I'm pretty sure I overlooked something that Anonymoose would point out if he weren't busy with the other Sophia Thread. I love consuming lore in whatever fictional universe I come across but in terms of Eorzean lore I'm like a piece of dirt compared to him. Granted he's been doing this since Legacy if I know correctly, but still. He's like a sentient lorebook.