Feast Party Win Trading / Primal

[MisterAdri]

Still, it's not fair to call out people for wintrading and publicly making them look like bad people without proof. To me it looks like he cannt stand that someone else took his nr1 spot. Calling people out for wintrading without any proof? That's just pathetic and to me it shows that he can't stand not being nr1.

[MisterAdri]

Also, what is the problem with queue dodging? People don't want to get stomped and want to play with people of their own level. You probably don't understand since you've always been 'the best' and have been nr 1 last season.

[Korihu]

Yeah he stopped talking when he got back onto #1 so i guess this thread was just some kind of scare tactic to get newbies to feed him or stop queuing with friends to practice/have fun since it can give you rating. Or waiting until the +300 points is gone off the daily feast rank boards.



Probably not the case, but with how much he's been railing on other people with crazy logic trying to assume the worst out of everyone I wanted to try applying crazy back. See how stupid some accusations can be.



If anything this is more of a case showing the situation of 4v4 Feast right now. There's so few people playing it, and then wintrading happens that SE doesn't regulate, that lots of legit people get accused of wintrading because when helping new friends win PvP they inevitably get points as a result which leads to accusations. All of this will be solved when custom matches come out, because then people can play and practice with friends without being reprimanded for "wintrading".

[MisterAdri]

I'll be looking forward to another wintrade post if he'll drop again.

[TiramisuMacaron]

He got banned from the forums for 10 days because of a post here... I'm sure he has plenty to say.

4v4 LP is a joke, to get to #1 you just have to be okay farming tomefarmers, bots, or low skilled people for hours on end. SE needs to remove rewards or change the system entirely. Something like you register "teams" and at the end of the season the top 4 teams have to fight each other tournament style. It could even be casted if they are going for the whole "esports" thing. It means nothing the way it is now. Solo queue, even though completely broken, is a way better indicator of player skill, and the players getting rewards in solo queue actually deserve it.

Edit: I would like to state koltiks team would probably be at the top of the rankings even if the mode was more balanced (great players, stupid strong comp), but they would actually have competition. As it stands now, just because of the time they are able to put into it and willingness to take bad matchups, they get it for free. Which is upsetting to people like me who have great groups, but cannot spend at much time because of work/life/timezones/unwillingness to play bad matches.

[Tieria]

1) Restrict queuing to a certain window every day, games will pop more and people can't ninja games on the side

2) There should be a ranking decay if you don't get X number of matches in a week to encourage people to keep queuing every week

3) Points gained/lost should not be based on your groups average rank but rather your teams highest player, otherwise you can boost one guy way up with alts. More points from each match should be allocated to the lower ranked team members to slowly even out over time if you swap someone out

4) If you don't accept a queue that pops, that should count as a loss, no exceptions. Someone missed it because they're in the bathroom? Sucks, but sorry, completely your fault. This prevents queue dodging, if you queue up in ranked, you should be forced to play any team you get matched with.

5) Allow custom match making in next patch for groups to practice, do not reward points for it

i actually like the idea

[FreeKingStefan]

Also, what is the problem with queue dodging? People don't want to get stomped and want to play with people of their own level. You probably don't understand since you've always been 'the best' and have been nr 1 last season.

The problem is that queue dodging allows teams to get to the #1 spot who do not deserve to be there, since any of the teams that would beat them, they "dodge." They are not technically the best, but they get high rating by avoiding the teams better than them.

[TiramisuMacaron]

The problem is that queue dodging allows teams to get to the #1 spot who do not deserve to be there, since any of the teams that would beat them, they "dodge." They are not technically the best, but they get high rating by avoiding the teams better than them.

See I understand your mentality, but most people do this in solo queue too. Once there are one or two unfavorable matches, people quit playing (solo or ranked). Even in games with large populations (MOBAs), people do stuff like this at higher ranks when you start seeing the same people. There is literally nothing to do to stop this currently, the same way there is nothing you can do about good teams inflating ratings by farming the same tome farmers. At least the good teams scare the less good teams out of queue, then the good teams get to farm more tome farmers? If a team that was mercy ruling you in 2 minutes every game was playing, would you really sit in queue and let them farm your for 4 hours? I don't think many people would do that... Even my solo queue mentality is "lose 3 games in a row, stop playing".

[Zensho]

Keep it classy Primal!

[DWARF_INTENSIFIES]

well, 3.4 is introducing premade matches, so we'll see if it continues