Feast Party Win Trading / Primal

[Exira]

They didn't not accept que, they just stopped queing, most likely because they were steamrolled. Koltik did mention that the game he had vs them lasted 3 minutes with his team 'going easy' on them. Ya I wouldn't blame them for stopping.

Didn't we also have a conversation on a different day that people on Aether actually have a alarm type of system for certain people queing in 4v4 solo that you don't want to play with because it is a likely loss? Pretty much the same concept. I don't blame people for not wanting to que if they aren't going to have fun or feel like matchmaking may give them the shaft.

like i said GENERALLY SPEAKING and NOT JUST THIS SITUATION. I really don't know how you can compare choosing not to queue at times where known solo queue bots/new people are spamming games ---> organizing games and withdrawing from queue pops that aren't against your friends in a playlist that affects a leaderboard. I'm sorry but it's not even in the same realm

and we don't have an alarm system people just mention who's playing at the moment and people choose their own destiny.

[FreeKingStefan]

They didn't not accept que, they just stopped queing.

This simply isn't the case, and you must be extremely oblivious if you think that these people across several data centers, who are not known AT ALL in their communities except as cheaters, are getting to high rankings legitimately.

When a queue pops which is not against one of their predetermined teams, they drop it, and try again later when (hopefully) there is nobody else queuing.

Edit: After reviewing the 'evidence' from both Koltik and the alleged exploiter, I will say this.

Doing in-house games while refusing to play other teams = Trading/Boosting. It is technically against the rules, as laid out on the top post on these forums, to do so.
Doing in-house games while welcoming other teams to play you = Okay in my books. The population is very low and so the players need to find ways to play SOMEHOW.

That said, the fact that this guy is by himself in the top spot with huge points and less matches played than the other top players means he took points from higher rated teams, it literally screams "boosting." This, in tandem with the fact that the "losing" teams on Exodus are still going positive in point gains after their bouts, really does smell fishy.

[TiramisuMacaron]

Why don't you invite us then :<... I always want to 4s... There is a discord, the offical forums, reddit, etc :<

[Chaelyn]

To be fair Koltik invited us but you went to eat and Blood wasn't on. xD

[TiramisuMacaron]

Koltik's team, the behemeth teams, the levi teams always invite us... I never see these people, it'd be nice to play them if they are good :/... Maybe limiting the queues to like 3 hours a day would be good because it'd force all events to be within the same time period .

[Exira]

Koltik's team, the behemeth teams, the levi teams always invite us... I never see these people, it'd be nice to play them if they are good :/... Maybe limiting the queues to like 3 hours a day would be good because it'd force all events to be within the same time period .

I think this is the direction they need to head with light party. Would solve a lot of problems while only introducing a couple minor ones

[Makavelii]

Queue Dodging? I Haven't Seen you in Party MM Once, Neither has Naty or Leo.. I Think one thing we ALL can agree on is that Ranked Party MM is Dead in it's current state n their are VERY FEW Teams that actually Search For Games.. So I don't see ANY issue with having Fun in house 4v4's if we have friends that actually want to play..

- Pappa Smurf

[Koltik]

Queue Dodging? I Haven't Seen you in Party MM Once, Neither has Naty or Leo.. I Think one thing we ALL can agree on is that Ranked Party MM is Dead in it's current state n their are VERY FEW Teams that actually Search For Games.. So I don't see ANY issue with having Fun in house 4v4's if we have friends that actually want to play..

- Pappa Smurf

Interesting considering we fought your farm team once last night and then queues suddenly stopped popping. But no, you're absolutely right, we're never in queue and you guys aren't trying to dodge us at all.

[Animosite]

I can understand the skepticism of his win/lose ratio and how it comes off as someone in win trading, but I don't believe these people are doing so. From what I am understanding is it just random people wanting to try pvp, and don't want to get bashed in solo ques and play for fun. I want to make this very clear as well, I have no personal affiliation with these people because if you know me well enough I don't care to do so. So for a simple explanation the difference between the other setup 4v4s is you all know what you are doing. The levi, lamia, excal 4v4s are people of the pvp community and have the experience and knowledge (to a degree) vs these people that mostly don't. It looks as if the very small pvp community of exodus is just taking new people into premades as stated before or practice and/or fun. I see the spam enough in say at the wolves den to know that most of these people are generally clueless. Just as I was typing this I see, "i haven't done much pvp yet so bare with me" and a reply of, "you will be fine." As I said before I can understand the skepticism 100% from Koltik and everyone else, but I still see it very unlikely. Also, if they did dodge you. I would go with they didn't want to get steamrolled again. But if I am wrong, feel free to stone me.

Also.

[6:32 PM] YuutsuTsu: I did 4v4 against pappa and co the other day.
[6:33 PM] YuutsuTsu: I didn't think it was rigged

[Koltik]

But if I am wrong, feel free to stone me.

too funny. are you a witch?!