Feast Party Win Trading / Primal

[Aviars]

Better question is why do they stop queuing after 1 loss if not win trading and fixing matches?

If you are severely outclassed, and you are only going to be playing 1 team over and over again, I think most people wouldn't keep queing. Which I believe is what happened in your case.

You can pretty much blame the fact that light party que is so dead that it'll match bronze/silver tier players vs gold/plats which has contributed to light party become even more of a ghost town.

It might be hard to accept. But I don't think party que on any datacenter displays a accurate depiction of competition.

[Avenfell]

Do we REALLY care though, or is this just the usual pretending to be angry thing we do. At this point id rather have 7 people that are honest and just tell me they arent going to do anything rather then what I cuurently get, which is 7 people that leave me alone to defend a node while they all chase 1 naked bard doing the maderville that sprints away whilst their other 7 party members have their way with me and our node.

[TiramisuMacaron]

Well to be fair, if one guy has a 99% winrate, one team is always outclassed...

[Exira]

If you are severely outclassed, and you are only going to be playing 1 team over and over again, I think most people wouldn't keep queing. Which I believe is what happened in your case....

So the reality of the situation is that there are rewards for light party. So do you think it's ok for these teams to organize games in their inner circles and slowly (or instantly) climb to the top and get rewards without playing any other teams who want to defend their spot? I feel for koltiks team since we're in the same position. You can challenge these teams all you want but when they won't accept queues unless they know it's their friends it makes it very difficult to defend your position on the leaderboard.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if these people actually use custom games when those come out. I have a feeling a certain few won't

[Koltik]

So the reality of the situation is that there are rewards for light party. So do you think it's ok for these teams to organize games in their inner circles and slowly (or instantly) climb to the top and get rewards without playing any other teams who want to defend their spot? I feel for koltiks team since we're in the same position. You can challenge these teams all you want but when they won't accept queues unless they know it's their friends it makes it very difficult to defend your position on the leaderboard.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if these people actually use custom games when those come out. I have a feeling a certain few won't

Basically this. It's the same thing as win trading.

[natyusha]

I can assure you that we're not win trading on exodus. We just do in house 4v4s where my experience compared to some of the newer players allows me to carry. I don't see anything wrong with this since everyone is trying their best to win. I also haven't even run into Rum's team since preseason and have only hit one other premade during season two (shoutout to Modoka Carrot's team). Besides, if I put together a stacked premade and queued for hours on end we would have a decent chance of winning.

Anyways, I'm sure I wont have the top spot when the end of the season rolls around as I will be too busy raiding while more pvp focused players continue to queue for dead content.

P.S. Before anyone says we are bads I've attached some spicy screenshots.

[Aviars]

The fact that you are showing pre season screenshots means absolutely shit other than you have no recent matches against us. How about you guys stop queue dodging us and actually pvp instead of win trading within your LS?

I don't think anybody can talk about que dodging in a bad light when absolutely everyone does it. Good dps try to avoid healers they don't like and vice versa in solo que.

What's to blame in this case is that party que is dead and the only way to get ques is to set them up. You invite people in the skype group, they set it up through the linkshell. As far as I can see there isn't any intentional throwing, and whether or not they feel like queing against anyone is up to them. And to me personally, party que having rewards when it is so dead is kind of a joke regardless. It is like getting into the top 10 but only 10 people showing up. At that point it isn't a real competition. And at the end of the day you have to admit that even within the skype group that on a good day you might get 2 or maybe 3 teams including yourselves to que. At that point it's obvious that even in our skype group battles that one team is going to probably have an advantage and have a nice farm session whether or not the games are close.

So the reality of the situation is that there are rewards for light party. So do you think it's ok for these teams to organize games in their inner circles and slowly (or instantly) climb to the top and get rewards without playing any other teams who want to defend their spot? I feel for koltiks team since we're in the same position. You can challenge these teams all you want but when they won't accept queues unless they know it's their friends it makes it very difficult to defend your position on the leaderboard.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if these people actually use custom games when those come out. I have a feeling a certain few won't

Like I said, the situation on Primal is that even Koltik's team has had to set up games to even think about getting a number of ques through the Primal Skype Group. Everyone on Primal in the top 30 has benefited from games setup before hand. Party que, at least on Primal, is that dead. And it is for that reason I can't see the distinction between the two. It is basically what you have to do in order to get a que on Primal Light Party Feast.

And the part about rewards, like ya, I wouldn't be surprised if top 30 had some bronze players get it on Primal. At this point playing light party on Primal is basically a participation award.

[Exira]

....Like I said, the situation on Primal is that even Koltik's team has had to set up games to even think about getting a number of ques through the Primal Skype Group. Everyone on Primal in the top 30 has benefited from games setup before hand. Party que, at least on Primal, is that dead. And it is for that reason I can't see the distinction between the two. It is basically what you have to do in order to get a que on Primal Light Party Feast.

And the part about rewards, like ya, I wouldn't be surprised if top 30 had some bronze players get it on Primal. At this point playing light party on Primal is basically a participation award.

Benefiting from setting up matches+accepting any and all challenges that happen during =/= Benefiting from setting up matches+purposely avoiding games that you didn't set up

As far as I'm concerned if people continue to dodge games within the ranked playlist once custom games are out we should be free to label them as people that just want the items. This is generally speaking not just this situation. I hope they add a loss of points for not accepting a queue

[Animosite]

Benefiting from setting up matches+accepting any and all challenges that happen during =/= Benefiting from setting up matches+purposely avoiding games that you didn't set up

As far as I'm concerned if people continue to dodge games within the ranked playlist once custom games are out we should be free to label them as people that just want the items. This is generally speaking not just this situation. I hope they add a loss of points for not accepting a queue

And this is why party ranking items were a mistake and the devs knew so on release.

[Aviars]

Benefiting from setting up matches+accepting any and all challenges that happen during =/= Benefiting from setting up matches+purposely avoiding games that you didn't set up

As far as I'm concerned if people continue to dodge games within the ranked playlist once custom games are out we should be free to label them as people that just want the items. This is generally speaking not just this situation. I hope they add a loss of points for not accepting a queue

They didn't not accept que, they just stopped queing, most likely because they were steamrolled. Koltik did mention that the game he had vs them lasted 3 minutes with his team 'going easy' on them. Ya I wouldn't blame them for stopping.

Didn't we also have a conversation on a different day that people on Aether actually have a alarm type of system for certain people queing in 4v4 solo that you don't want to play with because it is a likely loss? Pretty much the same concept. I don't blame people for not wanting to que if they aren't going to have fun or feel like matchmaking may give them the shaft.