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    thorkellthetall's Avatar
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    RIP Diadem again

    235 literally not worth doing.
    Unless retuned diadem turns out to be an exceptional way to get grade 5 materia, nobody will bother with it.
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    I was wondering about that myself. All things considered, that 235 ilevel seems pretty low considering the ilevel is going to be above 240.
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    Yeah, this is a letdown. Lore tomestones are going to be falling from the sky, so getting i230 gear is going to be insanely easy. Why bother going out of the way for i235 gear?

    I'm a big fan of PoTD, and overall this looks like a great patch.

    But man, at this point the Diadem is just a colossal waste of development team resources.
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    Zeniba Zhiya
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    If they would make it relevant like back in 3.1 then everyone would complain again how easy such good gear will be to obtain. People did complain about that in 3.1 and they just adjusted it to that feedback. 235 is probably the best way as its not much weaker than 240, still somehow relevant and useful for a lot of casual players main characters and for the hc players off classes while not being such a high ilvl that people would complain about it.
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    Humm maybe wait for the patch notes? Just a thought.

    And I have all roles leveled... ilevel 235 gear would probably be pretty good for most of those roles. Going to have to wait and see.
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    This is the problem tomestones present in general. If you put better gear in a farmable currency, weekly cap or no, it invalidates anything that isn't the same power level at minimum. It forces Diadem gear to have to be INSANELY powerful to compensate. I feel like Diadem as a catachup mechanic would work if we ditched tomestones altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanghelios View Post
    If they would make it relevant like back in 3.1 then everyone would complain again how easy such good gear will be to obtain. People did complain about that in 3.1 and they just adjusted it to that feedback. 235 is probably the best way as its not much weaker than 240, still somehow relevant and useful for a lot of casual players main characters and for the hc players off classes while not being such a high ilvl that people would complain about it.
    Why would hardcore players gear their off classes with anything but 250 crafted? I also am having trouble seeing any casual players managing to find groups for the retuned Diadem when it's inferior.
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    It's a tough balance to strike.
    Too low an ilevel and the content is "Dead on Arrival". Too high and people complain about it devaluing raid gear, especially if it's uncapped compared to other sources for the same ilevel.

    Maybe i240 would have been better? Equal to upgraded lore but one less step to get since you don't need to get upgrade items for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorkellthetall View Post
    I also am having trouble seeing any casual players managing to find groups for the retuned Diadem when it's inferior.
    First guess: Retuned Diadem will be connected to the relic. (I REALLY hope that's not the case).

    Second guess: They put some kind of item in there that's needed for progression.

    Third guess: It will be involved with that new Tails content or whatever it's called.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    First guess: Retuned Diadem will be connected to the relic. (I REALLY hope that's not the case).

    Second guess: They put some kind of item in there that's needed for progression.

    Third guess: It will be involved with that new Tails content or whatever it's called.
    It could be involved in Wondrous Tales, but you can only get credit for 9 of the rolled duties, so people could simply ignore Diadem altogether. Diadem was necessary for the crafted step of Anima, so they could indeed revisit it for the 3.45 step.
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