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    ADVSS's Avatar
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    245-255 would have been the proper stepping stone ilevel for this gear.(its not meldable right?) and only if it retained the potential bis with additional random stats attatched to it. why theyre going 235 is stupid, most people are decked in 240 via the 24 man. and what ilevel was the last dungeon gear? 215? so the next will be what 225? we all know why the 210 outcry happened, busted the best raid gear a new one, but putting this around crafted level would be the best thing. 235? what a joke. for what.
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    I get the feeling that gear (at least not their silly little ilvl 235 ones) will be what they use to draw people back in. You know whatever new plans they have for spoils is what they are probably banking on bringing "life" back into this content. That or mats for new glamours/higher ilvl gear are being gated in Diadem. Or a new mount. Or a minion. You know the drill.
    There's already the mount & minion from Diadem that hardly anyone could get due to a sheer lack of community interest. If you didn't get it in the first week or two there's no chance.
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    There's already the mount & minion from Diadem that hardly anyone could get due to a sheer lack of community interest. If you didn't get it in the first week or two there's no chance.
    The mount is/was easy enough to get just being mildly active with Diadem. I know people who literally duo'd or low-manned farmed the 99 spoils for the mount. The fact that the devs have "asked" players to discard the current spoils leads me to believe that everything bought with them now is going to be bought only with some new spoil token- of course I don't fully trust them until I see it with my own eyes, not after Yoshi-P telling 1.0 players to discard beastmen coin currencies when he became Producer (because they weren't going to do anything with them) only to make them a requirement for obtaining a relic weapon near the end of 1.0... But I digress, I'm willing to bet that in 3.4 everyone will have another chance to get that Pegasus if they couldn't be bothered/ weren't around the first time.

    The hawk minion though was also gated behind RNG that puts the primal mounts' drop rates pre-nerf to shame. So yeah, I don't expect people to realistically have those hawks the same way the mount was easily worked for.

    My original point wasn't about more mounts and minions anyway though, its that just sticking desirable things back in there outside of catch-up gear made out of sugar, spice and RNG dice would breathe life back into Diadem, if superficial.
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    Ruby Cirha
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    Coeurl
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    Monk Lv 73
    You know this is a role playing game content shouldn't need gear to make it interesting or fun gear is should be more of a bonus really I'll still have some fun with this even if the gear is lackluster
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyCirha View Post
    You know this is a role playing game content shouldn't need gear to make it interesting[...]
    Well...that only works to a degree.

    No matter how good a game or content, repetition is going to make it worse bit by bit. That's just an unfortunate truth. Gameplay can compel for a very long time - LoL captured many gamers for thousands of games of over 20 minutes each without requiring "rewards" for their game, but at some point, things get dull and people need to be convinced to play anyway. In PvE, the fun-falloff is usually quite a bit more drastic, hence you tend to need bigger rewards and rewards people actually enjoy - progression (power) and cosmetics.

    That said, the better the content, the later you need rewards to get people to run it. If people are trying something out and dropping it like it's hot or don't bother with it in the first place...chances are it's a content issue.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I wouldn't mind the iLevel being 235 if it has 5 guaranteed materia slots.
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    I wouldn't take Diadem overall too seriously, this is just a push to maybe get participation numbers up a bit, and maybe an "apology" for not having the rework finished, but even if it does get some traffic at the start ill be the same as before overall imo. on the plus side can go in as DoL now so yay fishies!, or w/e >.> I mean there is a reason it doesn't get much "attention" in the live letters or trailer, on a positive note though I am still interested to see what the actual rework brings =D
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Maybe if this new Diadem place has am increased Hawk rate...
    I'm willing to shell out my life savings for one but nobody has one up and nobody wants to go farming. Sad times!
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I said it on the first page and no else but the OP chimed in so I'll repeat here. I have a feeling that the retuned diadem will probably have new crafting mats needed for the next relic step. I could be wrong, but I think it's fairly plausible.
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I often think a raid that must discovery out here would awesome involving airship like the one emperor has i suppect this airship was made off blueprint for allagin technology. i think they garelons discovery magitech
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