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  1. #11
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    Koltik Morrel
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Geologo View Post
    considering that there isn't any unsynced pvp content
    (maybe lv50 The Fold but... we all know that it's dead)
    Even the Fold is synced, actually. Literally all PvP in this game is sync'd. It makes no sense that Dueling wouldn't be as well.
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  2. #12
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    Cat Jam
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Agreed. I like the dueling mode, but leaving it unsynced is not the greatest idea. I mean, I know that's how it works in other games, but all of our PvP revolves around level sync right now. In this form, it's more a thing for people to do when they get bored than any real tool for helping players test out things and improve. Then again, maybe that's exactly what they intended.

    If anything, maybe there should be some way to have options for level sync: Unsynced, ilvl 80, ilvl 150. Theoretically it could work similar to the syncing function for FATEs, only it also affects item level as well.
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    Last edited by Zahbi; 09-17-2016 at 04:24 PM.

  3. #13
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    Albert Kisama
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    Pugilist Lv 80
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  4. #14
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    Februs Harrow
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Definitely requesting this! Here's three good reasons right off the top of my head:
    • 1. It would let new players know, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, that there is a level sync in PvP.

      This is essential, because new players just don't have a clue what they're getting into when they queue up for PvP, especially players who are fresh to 60. It's one thing to have an ilvl 200 + PvE set and queue up. It's another entirely to queue up with a ilvl 150 set that barely meets the entry requirement.

    • 2. It allows us to train with the EXACT SAME CONDITIONS we are under in the arena.

      This is very important, because it creates a baseline for when we're training or teaching new players. How are new players supposed to know what to expect in the arena if they aren't dueling at the same level as they are competing? Better yet, how are we supposed to do accurate testing for gear stats and burst dmg if we're not conducting the tests within the same conditions we're competing? If we want an accurate training tool, then level sync is essential. Otherwise, duels between equal jobs will boil down to who has the better gear, rather than who actually knows what they're doing. I realize that duels aren't meant to be balanced in the first place, but there's no need for this. It completely underwrites the purpose of training.

    • 3. Allows us to (finally) stat check and test our builds before getting into the arena.

      This is something I've kind of wanted for a while now, just for convenience. As things are, the only way to accurately view stat caps is to max a stat while under level sync is to actually go into a match and see where the caps are. Assuming you haven't memorized what each stat cap is for each specific job, you'll have to queue for real matches to test out your builds and see if they meet the caps. If dueling were synced, however, we would no longer have to go through this relatively annoying process every time we wanted to test out a new job in PvP. Instead, you could just request a duel, view your stat page, end the duel, make adjustments, then request a duel again. It would be much faster and easier. Once you got it the way you like it, you can actually test it out and see how the numbers stack up without any of the clutter or fuss of an actual match.

    I'm sure there are more reasons than this, as well. I realize that SE is mostly putting duels in for fun and to give us something to do between queues, but there are some serious and practical applications to this feature that only work if level sync is in effect. It needs to happen.
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    Last edited by Februs; 09-17-2016 at 05:43 PM.

  5. #15
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    TwiissTwiiss's Avatar
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    Twiiss Il
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    Ragnarok
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    add ilvl sync pls ty
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  6. #16
    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Actually, this is bringing up another concern of mine that I almost forgot about. Does anyone know if statuses follow PvP rules or PvE rules within Wolves Den Pier? I remember that, back in the day, stuns didn't use the PvP timers on the training dummies in the WD pier area. It's not a big deal on the dummies, because most people only use them to test rotations, but it's a different story in duels. It would be seriously misleading to new players if statuses didn't work the same way in duels as they do in an actual match.
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  7. #17
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    Alpha R-type
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Sorry, guess you gotta raid now. ;^)
    I've seen your post history and it only involves ruining other players fun and or suggestions, if you as a player can't say anything constructive why say anything at all. Difference of opinion is why we post on this forum; your post however, nothing can be salvaged from
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    Last edited by AegisKiddo; 09-17-2016 at 06:05 PM.

  8. #18
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    It just throws to the window the whole testing and praticing expeculations many PvP players were waiting for.
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  9. #19
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    All of the wolves den area should level sync, makes no sense why it doesn't already.
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  10. #20
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    Quote Originally Posted by AegisKiddo View Post
    I've seen your post history and it only involves ruining other players fun and or suggestions, if you as a player can't say anything constructive why say anything at all. Difference of opinion is why we post on this forum; your post however, nothing can be salvaged from
    I think he was showing empathy, and was meant to further the common cause rather than disrupt it. Like, that he is sad SE is telling us PvPers we have to raid now to keep current.

    He also has some good constructive posts on how to improve the brokenness that is feast. I suggest you read some of them again with a more open mind~
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    Last edited by TiramisuMacaron; 09-17-2016 at 07:15 PM. Reason: Bad Engrish

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