Please consider: Apartments to those that don't own a house first.

[CUTS3R]

This thread is literally asking for the water to not be wet. I hate to break it for all of you but it ain't gonna happen.

[FearTheOldBlood]

Sorry I did not get the idea behind your sentence ^^" (english not mother tongue it might be too sbtil for me ^^")

Mayba at some point, if they see it's too messed up they'll add the auto demolition instead / with new appartement or during the period they work on new addition.

Oh i just mean your signature is correct. A cash shop as big as the one we have in this game should not exist in a sub MMO. There should be in-game ways to obtain these items or they should be way less expensive. $25 for a moogle mount? That's half a new game...

[loreleidiangelo]

Yeah. Good point. You are!

Life happens and this means that someone may not be able to log in for 45 days. Its a very small window when you consider things like severe illness and/or hospitalisation; that moving houses will lead to loss of connection and many places take say it takes up to 30 days to reestablish; moving countries takes several months just for furniture to arrive, let alone worrying about a 45 day timer on a house.

But hey! They are just lazy!

Really - grow up. Life gets in the wayof gaming. As it should.

What's always taken the piss for me is that your subscription dollars apparently aren't enough to guarantee place holding of this feature until you can get back online. Who CARES if someone is paying $15 a month to hog a virtual house they're not using? They'll either come back to the game at some point, or eventually unsub and lose it anyway; big whoop. (Spoilers: keeping my house on an auto-demolish stranglehold doesn't encourage me to login in and "use it", like people would like to believe - it just boosts SE's daily login count by 1 and irritates the pants off of me over how arbitrary it is.)

The playerbase is so quick to point fingers at one another instead of pointing them at SE, the braintrust of this current housing debacle. I'd almost rather they remove the feature altogether (with obvious refunds to those who own) until they can get it sorted out where there's enough for EVERYONE, even if someone wants one for each one of their three accounts with 8 alts apiece.

[Underdog2204]

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True but what are people doing to make things easier for everyone for the time being? Abolutely nothing... They'll buy up as much property as they can get thier hands on for themselves and then look at the people without one saying "I'm totally innocent"... I say utter rubbish, this whole thing could've been made alot easier if some people were able to think of someone other than themselves for once.

Yes the system is a mess but blaming other players is also warrented imho. You don't take advantage of a wrong just because you can... It's like a cash machine giving out more money than it should, it's still wrong to take it dispite being the Banks fault.

[loreleidiangelo]

True but what are people doing to make things easier for everyone for the time being? Abolutely nothing... They'll buy up as much property as they can get thier hands on for themselves and then look at the people without one saying "I'm totally innocent"... I say utter rubbish, this whole thing could've been made alot easier if some people were able to think of someone other than themselves for once.

Yes the system is a mess but blaming other players is also warrented imho. You don't take advantage of a wrong just because you can... It's like a cash machine giving out more money than it should, it's still wrong to take it dispite being the Banks fault.

It's like the old "you shouldn't roll Need for glamour if it's an upgrade for someone else" debate. There is no stringent moral code in an online game to which everyone is expected to adhere.

SE needs to fix housing, not the playerbase.

[CUTS3R]

Yes the system is a mess but blaming other players is also warrented imho. You don't take advantage of a wrong just because you can... It's like a cash machine giving out more money than it should, it's still wrong to take it dispite being the Banks fault.

Because if that happened to you, you would totally leave that money there right ? C'mon now.

That's nothing but being opportunist. In case of housing ( not appartments ) people saw the broken system as an opportunty to make money and seized it. You can't really blame them for being smarter than the majority unless... You are on the other end.


I know few players on my server who did or are still occasionally selling plots to people. And honestly if i had the funds when housing came out, i would have done it too considering how much second hand plots are sold for.

If SE had implemented counter measures to that in the first place, it would never have happened. And also SE not removing the 45 days demolition thng is still contributing to the issue. Why do you think the players i've mentioned are still able to get houses to sell ?


I took a 4 months break not too long ago and i stayed subbed all that time for few reasons even if i wasn't playing at all, the demolition system being one of the major ones.

[Underdog2204]

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It has happened to me.. I don't live on the moon, I took the extra inside was gonna come out of my balance anyway when they eventually found out :P

I'll think you will find I said an an earlier post I am very happy with my FC room so I don't want one.

Well I think the demolition system was as much to increase subs aswel as possibly opening up plots tbh.

[ErryK]

Oh i just mean your signature is correct. A cash shop as big as the one we have in this game should not exist in a sub MMO. There should be in-game ways to obtain these items or they should be way less expensive. $25 for a moogle mount? That's half a new game...

And also entirely optional!

[Underdog2204]

It's like the old "you shouldn't roll Need for glamour if it's an upgrade for someone else" debate. There is no stringent moral code in an online game to which everyone is expected to adhere.

SE needs to fix housing, not the playerbase.

Wrong there is a morals and saying being totally selfish is just as moral as people who arn't is an out and out lie.

I didn't say we should, but god forbid players try to ease a burden for the time being -_-

[Archaell]

Why should the house owners be discriminated? By that logic we could also say that any member of FC that has a house should not be able to buy an apartment as well - because they have the option to buy the FC room...

I am not sure if you realize it, but you are trying to bring certain level of equality by discriminating noticeable portion of the player base without even considering why could a house owner want the apartment. In my opinion apartments are great way to socialize, you get a lot of neighbors - in comparison to empty wards etc.

Threads like this one are no good. The only thing you are going to achieve is that people who would otherwise ignore the apartments are going to buy few just because they disagree with your attitude.

The fact that the apartments are going to cost "lunch money" is making it even more likely...