What about Sentinel no Job? (lets get rid of it)

[Irondude]

So is sentinel going to be dropped off the class list eventually? I am curious to know what is going on with this. It didn't get a job.

Its just kind of "there". It's not a true class, you can't just be a Sentinel without also being a gladiator/thaumaturge/conjurer. So whats the deal? I bet the problem is if you remove it people will scream fowl play as if "its started. I'm losing character development. i knew this would happen"
But for me, really who cares? Just reshuffle the abilities and lets get rid of it. You don't earn Sentinel it is tacked on as exp on the classes that have shields.

*ninja edit*
If you give sentinel a new identity and a weapon, now everyone who leveled gladiator thm or conj end up with a level 50 class and new mechanics they did not learn. It would not be fair to people who level the class after the change.

11/11/2011

yayy Gratification! I'm sure this was all my doing >.> hey shut up, I'm important!

3. Shield Skill

Not being bound to any class in particular, the shield skill has been handled as an irregularity when it came to the obtainment of experience points and actions. In reviewing the identity of each class, it was decided that shield actions should be made a part of the gladiator arsenal. In order to streamline the system and accentuate class uniqueness, the shield skill will be phased out and instead take the form of actions and traits learnable by gladiators.

Please be aware that the above changes will render all gains associated with the shield skill (levels and EXP) invalid.

[RemVye]

What is this?


You completely lost me at the third paragraph... maybe you can ninja edit it.


Edit:

Your ninja edit is a failure! I still have no idea what you're talking about....

Sentinel is a class that provides shield wearing classes with additional defensive skills. Obviously Glad / Thm / Con.

What are you talking about "new identity" and "new weapon"... classes are determined by their weapon... Sentinel = Shield. Again, I have no idea what you're talking about.

What "change"... what's "not fair"... you're confusion has caused me to become confused and thus post something that is probably confusing...

[syntaxlies]

its actually nice having those sentinel abilities of your soloing your mage class. its not a class, its a set of shield abilities so lets just leave it at that.

[Nakiamiie]

It would be really fun to see sentinel as a true class. The character wielding a two-handed shield... a true tank class!

[RemVye]

It would be really fun to see sentinel as a true class. The character wielding a two-handed shield... a true tank class!

Yeah so we could have a class that does less damage than Gladiator... would he block more?! (*cough since Glad rarely blocks and has low low damage *cough thats the joke*)

[Irondude]

What is this?


You completely lost me at the third paragraph... maybe you can ninja edit it.


Edit:

Your ninja edit is a failure! I still have no idea what you're talking about....

Sentinel is a class that provides shield wearing classes with additional defensive skills. Obviously Glad / Thm / Con.

What are you talking about "new identity" and "new weapon"... classes are determined by their weapon... Sentinel = Shield. Again, I have no idea what you're talking about.

What "change"... what's "not fair"... you're confusion has caused me to become confused and thus post something that is probably confusing...

No other class has dependency's. They are fully functional as their own class. Sentinal is not. It is not a true "Class". It did not get a job. It seems unworthy of being called a "Class". Evasion is not a class, accuracy is not a class. Sentinel should not be a class. It should be a skill that is primarily important to shield using Classes. Very simple to understand, I'm not asking you to agree.

[Irondude]

ok I am a failure of an OP on this one i guess lol. But if anyone has information on what's going on with sentinal can you post it.

[RemVye]

No other class has dependency's. They are fully functional as their own class. Sentinal is not. It is not a true "Class". It did not get a job. It seems unworthy of being called a "Class". Evasion is not a class, accuracy is not a class. Sentinel should not be a class. It should be a skill that is primarily important to shield using Classes. Very simple to understand, I'm not asking you to agree.

Shield is a weapon, weapon = class... thus Sentinel is a class. Regardless of that you can't only be Sentinel it's an enhancing class. By enhancing your abilities on other classes. The requirement for a class is not that they are fully functional on their own. I'd like to see you do any endgame with only one class leveled.

If you needed to equip a "Whip" in your off-hand to evade, that would be a class. If you needed to equip a "Hilt" in your offhand to parry that would be a class. The fact is you don't, but you certainly need a Shield to block... and by increasing your Shield skill....... you get abilities. You don't get 'Perfect Evasion' from increasing your evasion skill, you don't get 'Invincible' from increasing your parry skill.

I'm gonna toss this out there... my assumption is that in order to give the Sentinel abilities to multiple classes (Gla/Con/Thm) they had to create a separate class because their are probably unique name constraints for abilities in their poorly developed database.

As for "what's happening"... nothing is happening. Sentinel isn't getting a job. Sentinel is a class and will be used for classes. Jobs will have their own set of abilities, which (on Gla) could possibly pool from the Sentinel class abilities.

I don't know what you're confused about, still.

[Jigg]

Personally, I then Sentinel should be renamed and moved to Attributes instead of Skills.

[Irondude]

Shield is actually not a weapon, it is armor.

the definition of sentinel is to guard, not to use a shield.