Roles for Samurai, Red Mage, Dancer

[MomomiMomi]

That didn't stop people from using MNK or THF to tank in small parties though. MNK didn't even always use Utsusemi in Merit Parties. If SAM is as good of a tank as you think it is, and those two other DPS jobs could potentially tank well, what does that say about the idea that SAM is a tank? SAM could have just done as THF did and go /NIN, if it really was conditioned to tank.

It absolutely was used to tank in small parties. I actually tanked most of my time on it whenever our tank had to go. I also had a friend who tanked with it while I healed. It didn't even need /NIN, though it was at times used. Because what didn't use /NIN? It couldn't tank in endgame, but what could other than PLD and NIN? Or RDM/NIN. Or Anything/NIN. That's also why I can't consider THF/NIN an example of THF's ability to tank. Because anything could tank with /NIN.

Anyway... I'm veering way off topic here. I've turned this into an FFXI thread. Sorry about that.

And I may have gotten a little too antagonistic in my argument. Wasn't my intention.

[Welsper59]

It absolutely was used to tank in small parties. I actually tanked most of my time on it whenever our tank had to go. I also had a friend who tanked with it while I healed. It didn't even need /NIN, though it was at times used. Because what didn't use /NIN? It couldn't tank in endgame, but what could other than PLD and NIN? Or RDM/NIN. Or Anything/NIN. That's also why I can't consider THF/NIN an example of THF's ability to tank. Because anything could tank with /NIN.

Anyway... I'm veering way off topic here. I've turned this into an FFXI thread. Sorry about that.

And I may have gotten a little too antagonistic in my argument. Wasn't my intention.

My THF/NIN tanked way better than PLD/NIN did during certain periods of various expansions lol, like your mentioned period of increased mob damage. Not because I could keep threat better or anything, but because for as random as evasion was, it was a very noticeably different story for high evasion skill jobs. It dodged even more often than NIN main did, but couldn't keep up with NIN because of better threat tools, debuffs, and better Utsusemi. I rarely saw SAM/NIN at all, but that's likely because it was accepted as purely DPS to everyone I met... plus all the SAM I've had couldn't control threat, even if they wanted to. MNKs, BLM, etc would have better sustained or burst damage, which would make non-Provoke tanking a pain.

And yes, apologies all around. Went on for too long lol.