Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
Apart to add a new fresh air to tanks, you forget WAR utility go to get nerf and there is no other tank how figth to WAR in the OT spot, so add a new tank with some utility take it from WAR, a new gameplay, only need to watch other tanks un other mmo to see there is todo many mechanics to add to the role.

I can use the same excuse to say why we need new dps, for what? Whe already have a burts melee, a high constant dps melee and one with nice utility, long sword dps? Just a dragoon or a monk with a long sword.

My point is every role deserve have new fresh gameplays, if you want a mmo where only are dps and all the new jobs are dps then ffxiv is not you game, only add a job with a creative gameplay is already adding something fresh and new and many ppl go to enjoy it.

Every role deserve have new toys to play.
what can bring the samurai? a dps not depending on position but on combo purely, meaning depending of the skill used in your combo the effect will be different like the skillchain of ff11. andhonestly the utility of the ninja are... seriously as ninja, how often do we use the skill for redirect aggro, with a good tank is not needed! transfert your aggro for not take aggro? same with a good tank you don't need it too. the only reliable utility skill of the ninja is the sneak attack debuff and slash resistance debuff... but well other melee too offer skill that have utility.

ninja utility is the one that need to be reworked to the ground. it's only tool for when you play with bad tank or when you have a major different of gear between the tank and the group. they are too situational for be called utility.

honestly with heavenward the difference between the three melee dps have become thiner and thiner... burst dps? ninja and dragon (even monk can have some.) constat dps? ninja and monk. utility? each jobs have 1 debuff of resistance (blunt, piercing slashing) and one buff of group (critical up for dragoon, increase damage on the target for the ninja and increase healing receive for the monk) but soorry i can't considerate the two skill (that fill the same role) to be true utility. a utility skill will have more use in a combat or simply more USE. (what the two aggro tool lack seriously.)

we can add the silence, but the monk one is kinda easier to use and can be chained, if you use perfect balance. anyway... dps will mostly bring new gameplay experience, what i talk about since the start. samurai as tank will bring nothing new to the tank role. no new mechanic, no new approach of the tanking, no real originality in terms of equipement, if they give it a heavy armor + nodachi (what it will be) it's not a lot different than the drk.

and it's what i point since the start, what will bring the samurai to the table of the tank... nothing. and it's the main trouble here. a caster tank can be quite interesting and bring more... more important can be offtank that you ask for.