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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    The thing is, this game isn't going to implement such unsavory representations of any archetype. We are the heroes. As you pointed out European Knights could be just as corrupt yet we play a very honorable and chivalrous version of them because that's the job fantasy. Warriors share similarities with vikings and barbarians yet our job fantasy of them took a shift in 3.0 to them being strongest when in defense of others. Dark Knights who wield darkness were made defenders of the downtrodden, fighting against corrupt officials. The rogue's guild has a very strong moral code and are basically a secret police keeping more unsavory pirates in check. Of all the jobs only black mage is of any kind of dubious-ness and even then you're fighting against more evil people while proving that black mages don't have to be destructive war mongers.

    If they go the ronin route it would be more seven samurai than anything in terms of job fantasy than any kind of murderous assassin. And even then, the ronin archetype is not how samurai has ever been portrayed in a Final Fantasy game. Any time it's been there it's been specifically NOT called samurai. So if they do add that archetype they better damn well not call it samurai so we can get a proper tank samurai later
    Yeah, I mean backstory is no doubt going to be all "friendship conquers all" and "good > evil" sort of direction for everything lol. That's just the very child friendly atmosphere the majority of this game entails. That's where the manipulation bit comes into play. Focus on the good, rather than the bad. To the point though, it's really hard to argue conclusively that SAM is better suited for one role over the other.

    Bushido itself is not exclusive to working the mindset of this games tank role over DPS. Soldiers/warriors and war don't exactly exist separately. The blade and form is designed to strike and kill your opponent in one move, meaning in game terms, massive damage, as is the teachings of the importance of your strike with RL Iaido, which follows samurai combat prowess and psychology among other forms. Through this skill, they fight to protect. So the philosophy to protect is "tank"-like but the actual combat is DPS. Given that we have DPS jobs that are of moral code to fight to protect, it isn't a one-way philosophy exclusive to tanks. Even the FF series has made connection to Iaido, although obviously fictional lol.

    I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were to add SAM, be it tank or DPS, that they called it Ronin (RON) lol. Our characters are more wanderer than serving a lord/master, sort of deal that's why. I really don't care which role the job takes, since I can see it being a tank, but I've seen and played it as DPS. Both works perfectly fine.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 09-16-2016 at 06:32 AM.