Roles for Samurai, Red Mage, Dancer

[Zarcoft]

I'm just curious, when have they ever confirmed any of these jobs? I would love to see the post, also a hint or suggestion of something is not confirmation so can we stop with all the these are the jobs in 4.0 posts, many of players read or hear this and believe it to be concrete proof and confuse many existing, new and future players.

I'm not saying speculation is bad and I am all for that but everyone stating false information is really annoying. They will create what they feel is best at that time, if you like it stay and play, if not voice your reason in a well thought out informative post and not some post like "They messed up this job so let's boycott or make them completely change it because I don't like it post." That get the community as a whole nothing, and makes us as NA players look bad.

Again voicing your reasons in a well thought out manner, actually makes everyone think, and maybe will get the attention of developers. Think before you post is all I ask of the community and before you post about how i want this or I hate that, think about it, write it out, format it, take out offensive tones or words, finger pointing etc.. that will get you nowhere. Just food for thought

[CaptainLagbeard]

If they make the Samurai be the same kind it's been throughout FF, it probably should be a tank...
But I think they could drop the Samurai and replace it with something else... Ronin, Yojimbo or whatever, make a katana weilding class that's not armored that could work as a DPS.

Red Mage in my opinion has always been kind of a Healer class, with a generous side of DPS.
As long as they could cast generally the same healing spells as a White Mage, they could do the job just as well. And do good melee damage with attacks and black magic when heals weren't required... Certainly much more than White Mage could do, with an excepting of undead enemies...

I think Dancer has always kind of been kind of an opposite of Bard in FF...
While still being a DPS, but where Bard mostly gives out buffs to the party, the Dancer has given out debuffs to enemies.

[Kikoten]

I think what'd also be cool is if we could get another advancement to our Jobs.

Like:

Gladiator -> Paladin -> Knight
Marauder -> Warrior -> Berserker
Conjurer -> White Mage -> White Wizard
Thaumaturge -> Black Mage -> Black Wizard
Pugilist -> Monk -> Master
Arcanist -> Scholar -> Oracle
Arcanist -> Summoner -> Evoker
Lancer -> Dragoon -> Templar
Rogue -> Ninja -> Assassin
Machinist -> Puppetmaster
Dark Knight -> Hell Knight
Astrologian -> Illusionist

But one can dream, eh?

EDIT: Oops! I forgot one!

Archer -> Bard -> Beastmaster

[Sweetkins]

While having completely skipped reading the entire thread (and I'm sorry) for lack of time, I just wanted to impart some of my own thoughts, trying to keep it short. (Granted, no one is forced to read this either. lol)

Red Mage Tank would be a wonderful concept, seeing as earlier versions were a bit of a hybrid taking on almost any role (blm/whm/melee).

Tanking with magic would simultaneously introduce a new visual concept to the role. I could imagine magic shields, self regen healing and mass debuffs of mob groups and then the musketeer-like dodging skills (sort of exploring abilities similar to the warrior skill "Raw Intuition" but in various combinations.) The utilization of all three roles to tank, just imagine the sparklies! Ooooo~

That being, this will most likely not be the case and we'll just get a RDM DPS and I'll be disappointed - crying in a corner.

[Reptiletc]

Blue Mage tank, Red Mage dps, Necromancer healer

Samurai as DoL just to spite you all

Look forward to it.

[Xlantaa]

We... don't-.. need... tanks...

Okay

Welcome to the +1 hour queues if not ad more tank/healer classes and only DPS classes.

[Annah]

i hope we get a blue mage

[XXMagicalMayhemXX]

I'm personally hoping the next DPS class is some form of Caster. I like a lot lore wise, but with our current Casters. There really isn't a happy medium between the two.

We have BLM, a turret that doesn't want to move focusing on burst damage with very high single target damage and decent AoE.

Then we have SMN, one of the most nimble ranged classes that focuses heavily on sustained damage with limited burst and High AoE damage with decent single target DPS.

I think a new Caster that manages to act as a happy medium between those two VERY different playstyles without overpowering them would be really interesting. Plus as of the inclusion with AST, the Healers outnumber the Casters in the DoM Roles. My reasoning is also kinda based on the fact that AST somewhat acts a happy medium to WHM and SCH.

[Norleas]

It would be nice seeing a different playstyle for tanks, but SE is too scared to be innovative *sigh*

[Reptiletc]

Personally I feel they should invest some time in reworking Summoner. I suggest a mini LB-like bar that fills with DoT crits and allows the summoning of a primal for one big attack upon use. Maybe place the summon attacks in the pet hotbar to not muddle up your current bars. They could simply set the summon moves to be the Primal's big move as always (ex: Diamon Dust Storm for Shiva)