Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
Hm everyones opinion is different personally I find gathering to be fun as it is now, I've dove into botanist, mining and some fishing which I find to be the most complex of the three but overall I find it fun. It's more fun when you have an objective behind it rather then just loot to sell, for me it's mining to rank up my craft classes and stock up on materials to me that's fun. While you may say the mini-game is "useless" but you don't consider that the mini-game itself had it's own discovery phase of figuring out where the "favoured" spot for each item was and the game itself made it easier by actually giving you a clue as to how close you were. Without that aspect people would have to hit in the dark of 10 areas and use graphs and numbers to figure out the % of which are is actually the best. But with the current system once you see "right here" then you have found the best location for the item you wish to gather and I'd say you would hit it 75% of the time.
I'm not saying I want the discovery part removed. That one is actually fun and requires some research or some figuring out, and it allows you to narrow down what items you are getting from a node.

What's not fun is phase two where you do the whole hot-'n'-cold game where you try to hit the cursor at the appropriate spot. The item that you're tying to get in this phase was already determined in phase one, and
this phase serves only to 1) slow you down/keep you at a node longer, and 2) give you a chance to fail at getting this item. 1 is stupid, and 2 can be implemented in other ways that don't involve a boring minigame. But there should never BE a situation where you fail to gather an item, after you get past phase one.


I would honestly welcome changes to the mini-game to add more aspect to it, if you remove it then you pretty much take away the interaction of gathering that DoL is suppose to offer.
I guess, but I still think that focusing on the journey to the node would provide more fun and flexibility than whatever actions you do on that node.

On the case of why can you only gather at certain tree, have you read the Botanist class quest or done them yet. They pretty much explain why it's done the way it is. -Spoiler- Pretty much it's about respecting the forest and trees and only taking the dead parts of a tree and what's needed. In a sense you could think of cutting a tree and pretty much knocking off all the weak and weathered parts of a tree to use as materials rather then focusing on the parts that are still living. -Spoiler-
That doesn't change what I said. The trees that I'm chopping down should then look old or diseased, but they look identical to the trees next to them. What's the explanation then for me not being able to gather from the trees next to the one I'm chopping now?

A good variation between the three classes could be something like:

Miners: get less nodes, but a lot more resources/gather attempts are given per node
Botanists: get a lot of nodes (can chop from every tree in an area), but are only allowed one to three gather attempts
Fishers: fine as is

But ya that's just my opinion I find it fun and I don't see it as a drag when I'm aiming to obtain what I want, in all honesty I don't think it should take 30 minutes to obtain 100 copper ore cause then you have to be doing something wrong.
It's an example with made up numbers man. You're reading too much into some of the things I say, and completely missing my point on others.

As the system stands now though, if you are just a DoL only with no craft I can understand why it may be boring, but if you add in DoH to the mix and level them together you may find it fun pretty much being self-reliant on obtaining the loot you need to level your craft.
Gathering right now is okay, and this is from someone who hates gathering normally. It's nice that they're their own class and that there's some depth to being a gatherer now (as opposed to none in other MMOs). But they could differentiate them further, give much more depth, and allow for actual skill tests in playing this class as opposed to straight up memorizing where the good nodes/items are.