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    Oh the storry we know already: x times "defeated". After the 6th re appearing i cant belive it.
    and this thing is in a soul crystal or a ordiary one? To not mess up the "details". Bahamut meanwhile is like a endless joke. returning allways without a real reason. then they say "he is dead"..
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    Last edited by Androir; 09-13-2016 at 09:38 AM.

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    Bahamut returns because he is a Primal like the others (Heavensward of course goes into his real history
    , that the real Bahamut is long dead and was one of Midgardsormr's children, the Primal was a poor copy Tiamat summoned in her grief under the plodding from the Ascians
    - you can't truly 'kill' a Primal as their physical form is just solid aether and their essence simply dissipates into the Lifestream and awaits it's next summoning.

    It's a paradox with no easy answer (Allag got around that by trapping Primal souls while still in a physical form thus preventing their essence from returning to the Lifestream and being resummoned, but as the old folk saying goes, 'you can catch the devil, but you can't hold him long.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androir View Post
    So you had seen him die for real? Since he came back over and over.

    /edit: all i had seen was Louisoux casting a protect bubble.
    What comes back after the original dies inst the real thing. Think of it as a demon imitating the real thing. A parasite that feeds of Eorzia's energy eventually consuming everything

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Primal

    if you read the Wiki it says "Originally one of the First Brood of Midgardsormr, Bahamut perished during the twilight of the Third Astral Era while defending Meracydia from an invasion by the the reborn Allagan Emperor Xande who set about his campaign making a covenant with the Cloud of Darkness".

    In her grief, Tiamat was manipulated by the Ascians into summoning him back as a primal—something she quickly regretted as the Dreadwyrm was nothing but a crude imitation of the original Bahamut.
    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/T...l_Fantasy_XIV)

    The good Bahamut died, what keeps coming back is a fake. Like all the other Primals.

    If you're asking if I seen him die the first time? The answer is no, I don't think SE has the money or development power to show us all the time lines in this game would be cool to back in time though. if trolling is your reason all I can tell you that this is a game and non of it really exist. Bahamut is just a creation of Square Enix which means they're the reason that the people of Eorzea suffer and Square Enix let Bahamut die.
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    Uhm, I think you are pretty confused here, Bahamut hasn't returned 6 times. He "returned" 3 times if you're feeling VERY generous. The original Bahamut died at the hands of the Allagans, a primal in his (probable) likeness was summoned by Tiamat (you're a lvl 60 so I ASSUME you've gotten to that part of the story), then enslaved and chained by Allag and sent into space. Nael vas Darnus brought Dalamud, Bahamut's prison, back to Eorzea, where the primal Bahamut broke out, was subsequently defeated by Louisoix and the whole Flames of Truth thing happened and then Coil happened and the entity we found in the Final Coil was the last remaining shard of Bahamut. Is he gone forever? Well, Middy's son is, the primal Bahamut technically can still be summoned, but his role in the storyline is done, like, stick a fork in it, it's done.

    P.S. wasn't there a post about exactly this a long time ago?
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    3 times. oh Then I am sorry. http://de.finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bahamut
    this is counting as 3? NVM. I just had seen: here is nothing like lore or a Timeline.
    It are even more Times.
    Also no common sense. Can be closed.
    The reason: it is only a name for different creatures. Which is proving that this "real one" - storry isnt true to. Thumbs up for this "creativity".
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    Last edited by Androir; 09-13-2016 at 05:31 PM.

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    This thread is a trainwreck. I can't stop watching.
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    Its hard to understand your point OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androir View Post
    3 times. oh Then I am sorry. http://de.finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bahamut
    this is counting as 3? NVM. I just had seen: here is nothing like lore or a Timeline.
    It are even more Times.
    Also no common sense. Can be closed.
    The reason: it is only a name for different creatures. Which is proving that this "real one" - storry isnt true to. Thumbs up for this "creativity".
    Mein Deutsch is nicht so gut, aber...

    This page displays Bahamut's appearance in many different Final Fantasy games. Each Final Fantasy game is an entirely new world. The Bahamut in Final Fantasy I has nothing to do with the Bahamut in Final Fantasy IV, or X, or XIII. They are all totally different creatures, not the same creature reborn. None of them have anything to do with Bahamut in Final Fantasy XIV, this game.

    This page is also out of date. It does not mention Bahamut's appearance in Final Fantasy XIV at all.

    In Final Fantasy XIV, this is Bahamut's story:

    He started out as one of Midgardsormr's seven children, and was the lover and beloved of Tiamat, one of Midgardsormr's other children. Thousands of years ago, the Allagan Empire invaded Bahamut's and Tiamat's home in Meracydia. They and their brood tried to defend their home, but the Allagans were too powerful. They killed Bahamut. The Ascians contacted Tiamat, and offered her a method to resurrect Bahamut as a Primal. Tiamat, in her grief, agreed, and soon regretted it. The Primal Bahamut, while very powerful and a vengeful protector of her people, was not truly her lost mate, and did not have Bahamut's soul. Even worse, the Ascians then turned around and taught the Allagans how to safely capture and contain Primals, which the Ascians then used to trap Bahamut in the red moon, Dalamud. The Allagans finished conquering Meracydia, and captured Tiamat as well, binding her in a prison in the floating research facility known as Azys Lla.

    The Primal Bahamut remained trapped in Dalamud for thousands of years, long after the Allagan Empire collapsed. Eventually, a Garlean Legatus known as Nael Van Darnus managed to summon Dalamud to Eorzea, planning on ramming the moon into the continent to kill everyone there. While his plan failed, Bahamut took advantage of the situation to break free. While the Allagans were all long gone, Bahamut was still very angry, and planned to wipe out every human on the planet in revenge for what happened to his people. Fortunately, the Archon Louisouix was able to defeat Bahamut - or so it seemed.

    In actuality, Bahamut managed to survive, though he was badly broken. The scattered fragments of Dalamud began to reconstruct him. Shutting down the fragments of Dalamud before they can bring Bahamut back - that's what the raid known as the Binding Coil of Bahamut is all about.
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    He's just going to keep speaking in circles. =A=
    Everyone move along, nothing to see here.
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