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  1. #41
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    FinaSel's Avatar
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Carbuncle
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KaitlanKela View Post
    Telling people to LB is orderly acceptable as the standard operating procedures for this aren't as prolific as you'd think. Furthermore, everyone contributed to filling the gauge, they should have some say in how it's used. Lastly, there is absolutely no reason at all to hang onto it until 15%. None. You risk dropping damage on the ground if you wait too long and that is a waste.
    You have some good points. I can understand your point of view.

    I don't know why, but it just bothers me when the second the DPS gauge dings full, the WHM or tank use macro that says "Use LB!! <se.3>" or something.
    I just think "okay okay, don't worry, I got it. It's under control."

    It especially bothers me when I am in the middle of my Sneak Attack rotation, just about to use Sneak Attack and start my rotation, or I know the boss is about to use an AoE that I will need to evade. If I use LB as soon as the other person wants, I know I'm going to get hit by incoming AoE. So I'll wait until it is safe.

    On a similar note, when I was first leveling ninja, my first melee DPS class, I was scolded for using LB on 2nd boss when it had about 50% HP remaining. Since that time, I've been hesitant to use LB until about 15% or slightly less, depending on the boss.
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    Last edited by FinaSel; 09-11-2016 at 05:12 PM.

  2. #42
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    Clover_Blake's Avatar
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    Clover Blake
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I tend to give it to the person who was the nicest and most communicative. Just saying hello and goodbye is enough for me to give them a commendation, really. However, many players (mentors included) are mute and unfriendly, so there are many occasions where I simply don't commend anyone.
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  3. #43
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Character
    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Tank:
    - By holding aggro and switching between dps stance and tanking stance.

    DPs:
    - MCH/BRD/NIN if they use their support abilities correctly.
    - MNK/DRG/BLM/SMN very high dps.

    Healer:
    - Dpsing healer + keeping everyone alive.
    - AST using cards correctly.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 09-11-2016 at 06:29 PM.

  4. #44
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    Pheryx's Avatar
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    Pheryx Ramal
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    You have some good points. I can understand your point of view.

    On a similar note, when I was first leveling ninja, my first melee DPS class, I was scolded for using LB on 2nd boss when it had about 50% HP remaining. Since that time, I've been hesitant to use LB until about 15% or slightly less, depending on the boss.
    I had the same problem. Use limit break as soon as it's up? Get yelled at because it should be used as a panic button. Use it near the end of the fight? Get yelled at because damage loss.

    On topic though. I usually give a com to the other dps>healer>tank. If the other dps and healer are being lazy it instantly goes to the tank.
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  5. #45
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 1
    For me, it's a pretty simple priority system:
    1) Nice and helpful people
    2) People who play better than most
    3) The role counterpart (Healer/Tank, DPS/DPS)

    If multiple people qualify for the first step, I go down to the second and even the third if they also qualify for the second.
    There are two kinds of people who I don't commend on principle and those are rude people and people sporting "sexy" glamours. In such cases, I give my commendations to someone else even if they qualify for one or all of the prior.
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  6. #46
    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Use logic and limit break if the bar is full. :P or I'll use the healer lb just to spite you
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  7. #47
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    On a similar note, when I was first leveling ninja, my first melee DPS class, I was scolded for using LB on 2nd boss when it had about 50% HP remaining. Since that time, I've been hesitant to use LB until about 15% or slightly less, depending on the boss.
    Oh yes. You should never wait and use it as soon as it pops (unless like you said, waiting for an AoE to be safe). If people get angry, just wait till the end of the fight and tell them it made no difference. The damage it does will remain the same whether used at the beginning or the end. Also, sometimes if you are lucky enough it might pop again near the end of the fight! It even might help you speed through some phases.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 09-11-2016 at 06:36 PM.

  8. #48
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    You have some good points. I can understand your point of view.

    I don't know why, but it just bothers me when the second the DPS gauge dings full, the WHM or tank use macro that says "Use LB!! <se.3>" or something.
    I just think "okay okay, don't worry, I got it. It's under control."

    It especially bothers me when I am in the middle of my Sneak Attack rotation, just about to use Sneak Attack and start my rotation, or I know the boss is about to use an AoE that I will need to evade. If I use LB as soon as the other person wants, I know I'm going to get hit by incoming AoE. So I'll wait until it is safe.

    On a similar note, when I was first leveling ninja, my first melee DPS class, I was scolded for using LB on 2nd boss when it had about 50% HP remaining. Since that time, I've been hesitant to use LB until about 15% or slightly less, depending on the boss.
    When I play as DPS, whatever my job is, I use it no matter how much the boss HP is, or what my job is. Use it whenever you want. It's not only for melee or "need to wait 15% then LB". Who cares with it lol.
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  9. #49
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    Fluffernuff's Avatar
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    Aethys Aeon
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    When I play as DPS, whatever my job is, I use it no matter how much the boss HP is, or what my job is. Use it whenever you want. It's not only for melee or "need to wait 15% then LB". Who cares with it lol.
    careful with that! i know someone that was thrown in the gaol once...for harrassment. because they used melee lb1 whenever it was available in Void Ark
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  10. #50
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 91
    I always try to give at least one person a commendation. The only cases where I dont do this, is with people that make a dungeon run way longer than it should be or if people are already gone to fast.

    If nobody talks it goes to the one that I saw as doing the best. If someone is talking in the chat (more than "hello" and "bye") than I will give it to him, even if he is not the best of the group. I like it way more if runs are funny even if it means that it takes a little longer. Only if chatting to much causes us a lot of wipes..than thats bad.

    If someone explains the mechanics to someone new, that person needs to do a lot of mistakes to not get a commendation from me.

    For myself even as a not so bad dps (at least what others told me) I barely get any coms. So I am always happy to get them especially if I take the time to explain the dungeon or if I chat with them. (Will do that even without coms xD I just like explaining and some nice talk) I always feel a little smug if I go with two other friends and I am the one that gets it. Those are mostly the ones that barely talk in a dungeon and even if they are very good tanks/healers and deserve them, its still feels good to be the one that got it thanks to being nice.

    I wish we would be able to give more than one commendation. Sometimes you have a really great group, where everything goes fantastic and yet you can only give it to one.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 09-11-2016 at 06:47 PM.

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