Thread: Patch 3.4 predictions

I was discussing with some of my friends, the Item levels that would be impletemented in patch 3.40, and this is what we came up with.

Before that, this is our opinion, it's not set in stone.

First off, we will start with the gear of dungeons

Dungeons

There is a clear similarity in the dungeons Item Level requirement and the item level of the gear itself, this being in Heavensward dungeons. To specify:

• Neverreap/The Fractal Continuum - Average Item Level:145 - Gear Item Level:160
• Saint Mocianne's Arboretum/Pharos Sirius (HM) - Average: 170 - Gear: 185
• Antitower/Lost City of Amdapor (HM) - Average: 180 - Gear: 195
• Sohr Khai/Hullbreaker Isle (HM) - Average: 200 - Gear: 215
• Xelphatol/Gubal Library (HM) - Average:210 - Gear: ???

Back into topic, you can see that the diference between the gear itself and the average item level requirement is 15, so we calculate that the gear for the new dungeons will be 225, though we think that it's too low for an dungeon item level due to how high it's going to be (With what i will speak further in this thread), we still think that it's acceptable, why? Well it comes to the next point, the Trials, i will speak of the Extreme ones only since they are the only ones that drop weapons.

Trials (Extreme)

• Bismark EX - Average: 165 - Gear: 175
• Ravana EX - Average: 175 - Gear: 190
• Thordan EX - Average: 190 - Gear: 205
• Sephirot EX - Average: 205 - Gear: 220
• Nidhogg EX - Average: 220 - Gear: 235
• Sophia EX - Average: ??? - Gear: ???

With the exception of Bismark EX, every trial fits the same as the dungeons before, the diference between Average and Gear is 15. So we were thinking that Sophia EX in the new patch will be:

• Sophia EX - Average: 235 - Gear: 250

Now why we think it's acceptable for dungeon gear to be 225... Because of the Average of Sophia EX trial. Imagine this... One person that geared themselves up with dungeon gear then suddently decides "Oh i want to do the extreme trials, and the new one is out, what item level is it needed? Oh i am that level, let's do it!".
Though we agree that trials should be more aprochable to new players... we don't agree that they should be just enough for people to do Extremes, true the 225 gear will allow them to do Sephirot Ex and Nidhogg EX, but by now there are alot of guides and with people that know the fight, it's easy, so the Dungeon Item Level is good as 225.

Note: I know that a lot of people haven't completed Sephirot EX or Nidhogg EX, but that doesn't stop them from trying.

Alexander (The Creator) & Tomestones

Now i will talk of Alexander and Tomestones, i speak of both at the same time because the numbers are mostly similar, but i will start with Tomestones

• Tomestones of Law - Gear: 170 - Upgraded: 180
• Tomestones of Esoterics - Gear: 200 - Upgraded: 210
• Tomestones of Lore - Gear: 230 - Upgraded: 240
• ??Tomestones of Scriptures?? - Gear: ??? - Upgraded: ???

The interrogation points are because i am not sure if they will call it that or just Scriptures. Anyway... As you all know, the diference between the gear and upgraded is always 10 Item levels, but you can see a similar going with the gear itself of the diferent tomestones, the diference of Item Level is 30. So what we calculated is:

• ??Tomestones of Scriptures?? - Gear: 260 - Upgraded: 270

When looking at these numbers we thought that they were a bit exagerated... but in a way it fits the implementation of new tomestones, as they always grow the level of the item level by a lot, which will help in the completion of new challenges they will provide us. Now i will jump quickly to Alexander normal:

• Alexander (Gordias) - Average: 170 - Gear: 190
• Alexander (Midas) - Average: 200 - Gear: 220
• Alexander (Creator) - Average: ??? - Gear: ???

With Alexander, we thought that the diference is a bit unstable, but it works to the other item levels we talked about and will. The diference between the gear and average is 20 and the diference between the average is 30, so that would leave The Creator to:

Alexander (Gordias) - Average: 230 - Gear: 250

Now Savage:

• Alexander (Gordias) Savage - Average: 190~205 - Gear: 210
• Alexander (Midas) Savage - Average: 215~225 - Gear: 240-245
• Alexander (Creator) Savage - Average: ???~??? - Gear: ???

For savage it's quite hard to guess the Average, since the average is very unstable... but taking the ideia that Sophia EX would be 235 and that the Trial that was at the time during Midas releasse was Thordan... we can say estimate that the diference between averages would be 25, but by that logic we didn't get anywhere... but no fear! We estimated in another way.

Thinking of it like this, the Savage gear tends to be the same level as the Upgraded Tomestone, so this is 270 Item Level, making the Savage weapon 275, going by this logic, we can go back to the Average, the diference is 20~25 but it still seems high so we go as a maximum of 30, so by those calculations, we can assume that it would go like this:

• Alexander (Creator) Savage - Average: 240~250 - Gear: 270-275

It's quite high of a item level but it seems fitting to Savage.

Since i might as well include everything, i will add what we think the next 24 man Raid will be

• Void Ark - Average:175 - Gear: 200
• Weeping City of Mhach - Average: 205 - Gear: 230
• ??? - Average: 235 - Gear: 260

The average is that high because we think that by the time it comes out, people will be weeks in on Scripture, alexander and crafted gear.



Well This is all i have to share, this is all our opinion, and i thought i could share it with everyone, if you have your own ideas, do share, we would be happy to listen and adapt our knowledge to your own.

Again thank you^^

Originally Posted by Ashewalker

Good stuff

I actually thought you were gonna try to guess the detail and specifics of these events like Squadrons being like retainer venture's with percentage of success or Xephotol being a 4-man zerg fest. Though I imagine the new 24-man would be fun to experience the first few rounds.

Originally Posted by Kurogaea

I actually thought you were gonna try to guess the detail and specifics of these events like Squadrons being like retainer venture's with percentage of success or Xephotol being a 4-man zerg fest.

I actualy would talk about it but since we do not have any information about those at all, we just have to wait.

Originally Posted by Ashewalker

I actualy would talk about it but since we do not have any information about those at all, we just have to wait.

But....that's why your predicting stuff right?

Im wondering about the mention of Crafted Weapons.

They will have to be something like i235 considering they can be HQ and pentameldable.

Originally Posted by Ashewalker

I actualy would talk about it but since we do not have any information about those at all, we just have to wait.

Well, Xelphatol will be about Ixali trying to summon Garuda. And as we know if beast tribes want to summon a Primal, they succeed. So we are going to get our 4th Garuda fight. Granted, these aren't the exact same Ixali we have fought before, so this might not be the same Garuda either. Perhaps a hint of things to come in 4.0

Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Lunar Trials then? I would love to see that implemented into the game

Maybe. Yoshie-P did say that going to the moon is on the to do list. Time to whack Elidibus. At the very least we might further explore the fact that primals depend on how you remember them. So we can have a dozen completely different Garudas or Ifrits at any given time.

Originally Posted by Balipu

Well, Xelphatol will be about Ixali trying to summon Garuda. And as we know if beast tribes want to summon a Primal, they succeed. So we are going to get our 4th Garuda fight. Granted, these aren't the exact same Ixali we have fought before, so this might not be the same Garuda either. Perhaps a hint of things to come in 4.0

I don't know. I'm thinking this whole arch is going to end with the Warriors of Darkness getting to this Garuda first, with the finale being our fight with them instead.