square please challenge us a little

[Fluffernuff]

I think most players run Weeping City once a week (with Void Ark if they're still in need of upgrading gear). The dungeons themselves don't need to be overly challenging, just... engaging and not obnoxious (bosses that make themselves untergetable and/or make the floor ice. That's annoying), but also have mechanics that punish the player for ignoring them (punishment varies).

That's exactly what I mean. would you be satisfied with a weeping city equivalent of 4-man dungeon you "have" to run with outdated rewards? every day? thats the sort of thing we need to think about when we think of dungeon difficulty. their longevity is directly tied to roulettes- being repeated daily.

I've seen way too many bails on trial roulette seconds after seeing nidhogg's ugly mug to be convinced difficulty is something we need more of in our daily grinds