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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    ITT: No Fun Allowed

    If you are bothered by a raise macro at all, you need to stop and rethink life
    there is a question that you should answer

    Why do you have to use a text macro to rez ?

    Pressing the skill(s) is enough and as mentioned by the time you press the macro and then the skills, your co-healer ( if any) has already send out the rez so you are purposedly losing time when rez just because you want to sound interesting or to make a show off.

    Might want to rethink a bit why you do some stuff and if it is really relevant as I see it, no macro is relevant unless it serves the group purpose and a rez macro funny or not doesnt at all. Just me though
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    Last edited by MeiUshu; 09-12-2016 at 07:18 PM.

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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    there is a question that you should answer

    Why do you have to use a text macro to rez ?

    Pressing the skill(s) is enough and as mentioned by the time you press the macro and then the skills, your co-healer ( if any) has already send out the rez so you are purposedly losing time when rez just because you want to sound interesting or to make a show off.

    Might want to rethink a bit why you do some stuff and if it is really relevant as I see it, no macro is relevant unless it serves the group purpose and a rez macro funny or not doesnt at all. Just me though
    And the whole point of a raise macro is generally so someone else doesn't start raising the same person. Raise macros are one of the few macros you should have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    there is a question that you should answer

    Why do you have to use a text macro to rez ?
    Raise macros are extremely helpful when doing any content with more than 1 healer.
    When more than 1 person is dead, we need to know who is going to raise who, especially when one of those people has Swiftcast on cooldown.

    Even WITH a Raise macro, I sometimes encounter a healer who will use their swiftcast to raise the person who I am raising without swiftcast, when my cast is almost complete. If they had read my macro, they would know to instead raise another dead person OR focus on healing while I complete the raise.
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    [QUOTE=FinaSel;3848306] snip [QUOTE]

    when I see a healer manually rez a player while aoes fly all over the place, I will use my swiftcast + rez (if up) and I dont care if a macro was used or not to tell me said healer was rez someone that he/she was not in full condition to do effeciently whereas I am. He/she can interrupt his/her rez and maybe save his/her skin and me the hassle to have to rez said healer because well you know during those 7.5 secs where he/she need to stay static + the 2 seconds it took to send out the macro some aoe might hit him/her. My goodness this is not a very good excuse you gave
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  6. 09-13-2016 02:21 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryannex View Post
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    How can you be come a bad healer when you are using swiftcast and rez while the other healer is wasting precious time using just the rez skill. I would prefer that healer with the CD swiftcast to heal/buff/debuff the other players or dps instead of waiting to rez someone. If you don't have swiftcast ready, don't waste time rezing someone. That is being a bad healer. The only time that could be tolerable to do so is when you are in a low level dungeon and even then you could be dpsing. You would do good dps while you wait for your swiftcast to be ready.

    I have been in many dungeons where healers killed their tanks or themselves because they are using just resurrection without swiftcast and they get hit by the boss/mob AOE, fall off from a platform, or get pushed to the walls, etc (raids, ex primals, regular dungeons). the other healer won't even wait for you- general speaking- to be halfway rezing someone. The other healer would have rez the dead player as soon as they saw you with a casting bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumperX View Post
    How can you be come a bad healer when you are using swiftcast and rez while the other healer is wasting precious time using just the rez skill. I would prefer that healer with the CD swiftcast to heal/buff/debuff the other players or dps instead of waiting to rez someone. If you don't have swiftcast ready, don't waste time rezing someone. That is being a bad healer. The only time that could be tolerable to do so is when you are in a low level dungeon and even then you could be dpsing. You would do good dps while you wait for your swiftcast to be ready.

    I have been in many dungeons where healers killed their tanks or themselves because they are using just resurrection without swiftcast and they get hit by the boss/mob AOE, fall off from a platform, or get pushed to the walls, etc (raids, ex primals, regular dungeons). the other healer won't even wait for you- general speaking- to be halfway rezing someone. The other healer would have rez the dead player as soon as they saw you with a casting bar.
    Most of the time, it really doesn't matter that's why. Assuming this isn't something like Savage or Extreme modes, you generally don't have too much to worry about in spending the time to cast. Obviously this means the healer should be aware of when something dire is coming, or that they have priorities (healing MT). If it's just a downtime moment (i.e. DPS period), then there's really no harm. The paltry amount of DPS you'd add in 10sec isn't exactly game breaking for the content someone would bother full casting a rez in. If really feel otherwise on 10sec of healer DPS making and breaking a group entirely for the average player, I don't know how credible your view really is. It'd probably on-par with the typical mouthbreather complaining a dungeon took 5sec longer than their last one.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 09-13-2016 at 12:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumperX View Post
    How can you be come a bad healer when you are using swiftcast and rez while the other healer is wasting precious time using just the rez skill.
    Imagine the scenario:
    There are 2 or more dead people. Dead person A and Dead Person B (and maybe even C and D)
    Healer 1 is in the middle of casting raise on dead person A.
    Healer 1 uses a raise macro that says "Raise A"
    Healer 2 ignores this macro or sees this macro and doesn't care. Healer 2 uses their Swiftcast to raise Person A.
    Healer 1 has to now cancel their Raise cast.
    Now, healer 1 or 2 needs to cast raise again, from the beginning, to raise Dead Person B.

    Healer 1 wasted time casting Raise on Dead Person A because Healer 2 didn't care about checking who they were raising.
    If healer 2 had cared about it, both Dead People could be back up and fighting for longer. It also means that healer 1 wouldn't have to cast raise twice, meaning more group healing.

    So if healer 2 sees healer 1 is using a macro when casting raise, but healer 2 decides they don't care and uses their Swiftcast and Raise on the same person that healer 1 is already casting Raise on, then healer 2 is absolutely a bad healer. Not only that, but a poor team player.
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  10. 09-13-2016 02:45 AM
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    Eh, forget it. Not worth responding.