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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    I don't use raise macros since they all get on my nerves. Not even a case of "this offends me," I hate seeing the chat flooded with useless diatribe.

    You can't even double-raise a player. If one has already hit a raise, the game simply stops the cast from happening for the others attempting it, so no MP loss. You just burn swift, which is so snappy, I probably would have even with silly macro text flooding the chat. Use another Cure 2 or Medica 2 for the swift and move on.

    Plus, you can see everyone's cast bars over the party list, so if it isn't a swift-rez, you can see you're fellow healer or SMN using it.
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    Kyudokai Thornbow
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    Honestly, it seems these days it's becoming more and more difficult to avoid offending people.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Clansman2016 View Post
    Honestly, it seems these days it's becoming more and more difficult to avoid offending people.
    i think that has nothing to do with these days. it's just someone else failed a mechanic and you die and the healer calls you an idiot because you died... that would offend people back in the 1970's the same way.

    for example the OT missed the tank-swap, people die in the prison in titan ex, all the people running out of your damage-split mark... or yes, the healer himself messed up and you died...
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    In todays world you can offend someone by eating an ice cream bar so nothing really surprises me anymore.
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    Windi Skywalker
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarletashe View Post
    In todays world you can offend someone by eating an ice cream bar so nothing really surprises me anymore.
    In today's world, you can offend someone by asking them to look deeper into the context of their actions and stop trying to dodge consequence.

    Oh wait, that's been around since forever.
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    Player
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    This is not even remotely true by the way.

    I wish it was though.
    It's only an issue if the player being raised doesn't accept it. Once they do, they gain a status effect that prevents others from trying to raise them.

    Which, again, having a poor joke macro runs the risk of slowing the rezzed player down, messing with your co-healer, wasting time and MP, and just making people mad in a situation where everyone was having fun.

    The fact that people are so unapologetic about these things that can be so easily misconstrued is the real problem. It's not about people being too easily offended by you, it's about not being a jerk to your fellows.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    It's only an issue if the player being raised doesn't accept it. Once they do, they gain a status effect that prevents others from trying to raise them.
    Incorrect.

    I have double raised people so many times in the last two years I think I would know.

    My raid group actually has a thing where the white mage doesn't raise anyone unless the scholar and summoner both vocally say they can't to avoid them wasting their mana on it.

    Maybe if you waited so long that the 'raise? yes/no' choice is on their screen then what you say would happen, but most healers with good reaction time have already blown their swiftcast and 2652 mana by that point.

    I've even seen people who were alive with the "Would you like to raise?" debuff on them due to double raising shenanigans, always weird when that happens.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Let me put it this way. Would it get on your nerves if every once in a while someone who dies on your watch hits their macro:

    <t> pls raise.... not keeping people up is lame. <se.1>

    It's equally annoying to get called out by a raise macro when your death was not your fault, than it is for healers to get crapped on for not healing through avoidable damage. You could try a more humorous approach if you wish to not offend/demoralize people.
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    E'gao Tia
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    Even if a raise macro putting any blame at all on the dead was used on a dragoon who stood in every possible aoe, they could still get offended and blame it on the healer. As people always do. But this thread is not about the healers I know i just have too many angry haler stories.
    (someone teach me how to make text smaller i only know real programming not this)
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    Syhrlona Haldhaerzwyn
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Raising <t> is all you need. Anything more than that and I cringe and wish to slap you across your face. Bare minimum macros are the best ones.
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