Is it possible to offend someone...with a macro?

[Ametrine]

This is not even remotely true by the way.

I wish it was though.

It's only an issue if the player being raised doesn't accept it. Once they do, they gain a status effect that prevents others from trying to raise them.

Which, again, having a poor joke macro runs the risk of slowing the rezzed player down, messing with your co-healer, wasting time and MP, and just making people mad in a situation where everyone was having fun.

The fact that people are so unapologetic about these things that can be so easily misconstrued is the real problem. It's not about people being too easily offended by you, it's about not being a jerk to your fellows.

[FoxyAreku]

It's only an issue if the player being raised doesn't accept it. Once they do, they gain a status effect that prevents others from trying to raise them.

Incorrect.

I have double raised people so many times in the last two years I think I would know.

My raid group actually has a thing where the white mage doesn't raise anyone unless the scholar and summoner both vocally say they can't to avoid them wasting their mana on it.

Maybe if you waited so long that the 'raise? yes/no' choice is on their screen then what you say would happen, but most healers with good reaction time have already blown their swiftcast and 2652 mana by that point.

I've even seen people who were alive with the "Would you like to raise?" debuff on them due to double raising shenanigans, always weird when that happens.

[Reinha]

Let me put it this way. Would it get on your nerves if every once in a while someone who dies on your watch hits their macro:

<t> pls raise.... not keeping people up is lame. <se.1>

It's equally annoying to get called out by a raise macro when your death was not your fault, than it is for healers to get crapped on for not healing through avoidable damage. You could try a more humorous approach if you wish to not offend/demoralize people.

[Rakiria]

Even if a raise macro putting any blame at all on the dead was used on a dragoon who stood in every possible aoe, they could still get offended and blame it on the healer. As people always do. But this thread is not about the healers I know i just have too many angry haler stories.
(someone teach me how to make text smaller i only know real programming not this)

[Syhrwyb]

Raising <t> is all you need. Anything more than that and I cringe and wish to slap you across your face. Bare minimum macros are the best ones.

[Masquerade]

I quoted some posts for an example of this... but went ahead and removed them from this comment. Decided it would be better to not point fingers but just speak generally to make my point.


There is trend in the game, that has even carried it's way onto the forums. It's very common in MMOs, so this social discord dose not even really get noticed all the time. It being so common that it just blends into the background music.

But when a group goes down, everyone want's to know who to blame for it. Which is why a lot of players are quick to point at someone else, so as not to get accused of it themselves. ---kinda like farting in the car when you were a kid. Remember the old "Who ever smelt it dealt it" ?---

I was in a group the other night that was so refreshingly different. We did very well, and only had a couple of hiccups. I forget the name of that zone, but it was in that one that takes place in a cave in the desert. After you clear each room, the portal to get into the next area, is clicking on a small pool of quicksand.
When we got to the 2nd boss which was that giant worm, the Archer dps died 2 or 3 times during the fight. After the fight was over, the healer and I both typed up a quick apology to the Archer. She apologized for not getting close enough to him in time to target and heal him before he went down. And I apologized saying that I was not sure why or even when I lost the aggro on the boss. He then told me it was not my fault. How I kept the aggro and that boss will just target random group members during the fight. Then told the healer it was not her fault either, that he mains as a Tank and he was still getting used to playing as DPS. So remember where to stand and move to get out of the way during a boss fight was something he was still getting used to.

Every pickup group is unique. When the group keeps getting killed, typically it's because some party members are refusing to alter their own play-style to fit that group. Sometimes the strongest player, can be the weakest link in the chain.

[Khemorex]

hmmm the only thing i find annoying on macros is that blib <se.2> blib gong <se.5> gong sounds that people add in to them :P specially when it is a warrior .... :P

and they spam it every 30 seconds :P

[Windi]

In todays world you can offend someone by eating an ice cream bar so nothing really surprises me anymore.

In today's world, you can offend someone by asking them to look deeper into the context of their actions and stop trying to dodge consequence.

Oh wait, that's been around since forever.

[DevilsDontFly]

I think the fact you're questioning if your macro can offend people is pretty self explanatory. With a little bit of common sense we always know if our words can really offend someone on a personal level and avoid using it, unless the "today's world" excuse happens and people decide to use it anyways. Regardless, we always know. There are so many different words in our vocabulary to be used, I'm pretty sure everyone can come up with a lot of different phrases with the same meaning without any double standard.

[Deceptistar]

Tho they are probably not meant to offend, I do think they can bring down the groups morale....and considering the healer is suppose to keep group members from getting killed, a better macro might be something like "Sorry you died under my watch. I'll try not to let it happen again."

I agree with the above, as funny as you might think it could be,
Just substitute your macro with something like above.
While the death may or may not be your fault, and its 'just a macro',
having to hear that if it occurs multiple times does not give a good feeling to you or your party.


most people fail to realize that their definition of 'funny' is at the uncomfortable expense of others,
If i were a DD and a healers raised with "Sorry you died under my watch. I'll try not to let it happen again." in a 24 man raid multiple times,
Id find that funny.
But i dont think the healer themselves would feel much happy with that scrolling mutiple times.