Is it possible to offend someone...with a macro?

[FinaSel]

there is a question that you should answer

Why do you have to use a text macro to rez ?

Raise macros are extremely helpful when doing any content with more than 1 healer.
When more than 1 person is dead, we need to know who is going to raise who, especially when one of those people has Swiftcast on cooldown.

Even WITH a Raise macro, I sometimes encounter a healer who will use their swiftcast to raise the person who I am raising without swiftcast, when my cast is almost complete. If they had read my macro, they would know to instead raise another dead person OR focus on healing while I complete the raise.

[Alleo]

I have nothing against a rez macro itself. But why do we need such long text messages with it? Just using the auto-translated skill and the <t> for the players name should be way enough information for the other players to know that they don't need to use their skills. Maybe a little text like "wake up <t>" or something but some macros are way too long.

Putting "..." and lame in your raise macro can make it sound accusing to some. Yes you can offend people with the smallest things but sometimes it would be better to look at oneself and ask "could this in any way offend anyone?"

[SpiritMuse]

Well, since a text macro is essentially just an automated way of sending messages to your group, I would say yes, of course it's possible to offend someone with a macro. Just like you would if you had manually typed it. Just because you automated your "funny" insult doesn't mean it's not rude.

[Rolazz]

Well my rez macro goes "Dammit <t>, quit tanking the floor!" And there was only a drg that got all pissy lol

[MeiUshu]

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when I see a healer manually rez a player while aoes fly all over the place, I will use my swiftcast + rez (if up) and I dont care if a macro was used or not to tell me said healer was rez someone that he/she was not in full condition to do effeciently whereas I am. He/she can interrupt his/her rez and maybe save his/her skin and me the hassle to have to rez said healer because well you know during those 7.5 secs where he/she need to stay static + the 2 seconds it took to send out the macro some aoe might hit him/her. My goodness this is not a very good excuse you gave

[JumperX]

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How can you be come a bad healer when you are using swiftcast and rez while the other healer is wasting precious time using just the rez skill. I would prefer that healer with the CD swiftcast to heal/buff/debuff the other players or dps instead of waiting to rez someone. If you don't have swiftcast ready, don't waste time rezing someone. That is being a bad healer. The only time that could be tolerable to do so is when you are in a low level dungeon and even then you could be dpsing. You would do good dps while you wait for your swiftcast to be ready.

I have been in many dungeons where healers killed their tanks or themselves because they are using just resurrection without swiftcast and they get hit by the boss/mob AOE, fall off from a platform, or get pushed to the walls, etc (raids, ex primals, regular dungeons). the other healer won't even wait for you- general speaking- to be halfway rezing someone. The other healer would have rez the dead player as soon as they saw you with a casting bar.

[Welsper59]

How can you be come a bad healer when you are using swiftcast and rez while the other healer is wasting precious time using just the rez skill. I would prefer that healer with the CD swiftcast to heal/buff/debuff the other players or dps instead of waiting to rez someone. If you don't have swiftcast ready, don't waste time rezing someone. That is being a bad healer. The only time that could be tolerable to do so is when you are in a low level dungeon and even then you could be dpsing. You would do good dps while you wait for your swiftcast to be ready.

I have been in many dungeons where healers killed their tanks or themselves because they are using just resurrection without swiftcast and they get hit by the boss/mob AOE, fall off from a platform, or get pushed to the walls, etc (raids, ex primals, regular dungeons). the other healer won't even wait for you- general speaking- to be halfway rezing someone. The other healer would have rez the dead player as soon as they saw you with a casting bar.

Most of the time, it really doesn't matter that's why. Assuming this isn't something like Savage or Extreme modes, you generally don't have too much to worry about in spending the time to cast. Obviously this means the healer should be aware of when something dire is coming, or that they have priorities (healing MT). If it's just a downtime moment (i.e. DPS period), then there's really no harm. The paltry amount of DPS you'd add in 10sec isn't exactly game breaking for the content someone would bother full casting a rez in. If really feel otherwise on 10sec of healer DPS making and breaking a group entirely for the average player, I don't know how credible your view really is. It'd probably on-par with the typical mouthbreather complaining a dungeon took 5sec longer than their last one.

[FinaSel]

How can you be come a bad healer when you are using swiftcast and rez while the other healer is wasting precious time using just the rez skill.

Imagine the scenario:
There are 2 or more dead people. Dead person A and Dead Person B (and maybe even C and D)
Healer 1 is in the middle of casting raise on dead person A.
Healer 1 uses a raise macro that says "Raise A"
Healer 2 ignores this macro or sees this macro and doesn't care. Healer 2 uses their Swiftcast to raise Person A.
Healer 1 has to now cancel their Raise cast.
Now, healer 1 or 2 needs to cast raise again, from the beginning, to raise Dead Person B.

Healer 1 wasted time casting Raise on Dead Person A because Healer 2 didn't care about checking who they were raising.
If healer 2 had cared about it, both Dead People could be back up and fighting for longer. It also means that healer 1 wouldn't have to cast raise twice, meaning more group healing.

So if healer 2 sees healer 1 is using a macro when casting raise, but healer 2 decides they don't care and uses their Swiftcast and Raise on the same person that healer 1 is already casting Raise on, then healer 2 is absolutely a bad healer. Not only that, but a poor team player.

[Aldora]

When playing with other (random) people, it's never gonna be fun if someone points out a mistake you've made and announces it publicly with the party chat by mentioning your name in conjuction with the event that happend. In this case death. However, the message the healer uses in order to make this fact know can add more salt into the wound. Even if it was meant as a joke, the person on the receiving end might think differently about it. Macro's are meant to assist people in informing your fellow party members about certain things, but there are people who tend to overdo it by adding a whole paragraph worth of text into it describing the action they are performing (like chanting a spell, or requesting assistance from a divine being to ressurect a fallen member), inserting a joke or down right insult them with it (for instance a 15 line ascii drawing of a pig flipping off someone/the party and adding an insult in text about handling mechanics).

The text itself doesn't have to offend people to be offensive, the matter in which it is used and the excessive use of it can as well. For instance, i was just in a duty with a warrior tank who used a Berserk macro that contained the following:

BERSERK USED <se.1> <se.10> <se.6>
Pacification in 9 seconds <se.6> <se.1>
Pacification <se.1> <se.10> <se.6>
Pacification <se.1> <se.10> <se.6>
Pacification is up <se.1> <se.10> <se.6>

I don't mind a tank informing me that he used Berserk and that he will be pacified soon. I'll gladly Esuna him/her as a healer. But, i don't need 3 verifications that he has the Pacification debuff as well as multiple sounds per announcement. 2 or 3 lines with 1 sound effect will suffice.

BERSERK USED <se.1>
Pacification in 9 seconds <se.1>
Pacification is up <se.1>

This is more then enough for a Berserk macro... Really.

Also, everyone can make a mistake and press a macro before the skill is ready for use, but if you spam it, its really annoying...



Macro's are here to assist people, but please... Don't overdo it.

[UnstablePersonality]

Honestly, in this day and age I could go outside with a bottle of mountain dew at 7:30 to get a newspaper and that alone would offend someone. People get so offended so quickly anymore.