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    4.0 Predictions till Las Vegas

    I'm finally back in the game and can post on the forums again, so let's have some fun.
    As you all know in about a month the Las Vegas Fan Fest will be heald and Yoshie-P will reveal the next expansion. Details are scarce, hints are plenty.

    So the question is: What do you think will be in it?
    • We have several hints pointing towards Ala Mhigo being the setting.
    • As the first design question for 3.01 was swimming or flying it is safe to say that swimming is next.
    • The Rising and the Hildibrand questline puts a lot of focus on Mammets (perhaps another hint.)
    • The Wandering minstrel sang about swords cleaving the ocean floor, so plus for water features and maybe a sword wielding class.
    • Viera were planned to be the new race in Heavensward.

    With these in mind here is what I think 4.0 could be. Bare in mind that this is what I think is most likely. Not what I personally want. I would pick Othard as the setting and have Samurai and Dancer as the new jobs and a storyline involving Odin and his more japanese inspired variations (Raiden and Yojimbo).

    So without further to do:

    Final Fantasy XIV: Forward (please look forward to it.)

    Emperor Varis wants to launch an offensive against Eorzea. The Eorzean Alliance wants a strong region between them and Garlemald to hold off the invasion. Nero wants some Ala Mhigan magitech to show that he is better than Cid. The refugees still won't shut up about retaking Ala Mhigo. Ilberd is still not dead yet. Yugiri does not want another rebellious city state to share the fate of Doma. So in a nutshell everyone and their grandmother has a reason to travel to Gyr Abania for a nice free for all to determine the future of the region and perhaps all of Aldenard. The Ascians will of course be there to make things worse somehow.

    New Region: Gyr Abania

    New city state: Ala Mhigo

    New playable race: Viera

    New job(s):

    - Red Mage:
    • Wields a rapier
    • Has very nice hats that rival those of bards.
    • melee and short range disciple of magic using intellect.
    • Uses mix of black and white magic.
    • Must balance between the two or a debuff will temproraily block access from one magic type after excessive use.

    - Puppet Master:
    • Wields whatever that crossbar looking thing is with the puppet strings.
    • Doesn't really have combat abilities besides summoning, healing and equipping puppets (mammets).
    • You can summon one of several mammets with different strengths and weaknesses (e.g: Slow but strong, lot of HP but lower attack, glass cannon, ranged, melee)
    • When you have a summoned mammet you get a whole bunch of abilities on the pet hotbar that directly control the mammet.
    • The various equip skills give your active mammet additional gear to augment or change its abilities.

    New Primals: Doomtrain

    New feature: Ships.
    • Not airships, but actual naval ships.
    • Many different types wih different looks and characteristics.
    • Captain's quarters as your own room if you can't get any other form of housing.
    • Can be used for sea travel of course.
    • Customizable ship weapons.

    New Free company feature: Free company ships.
    - Very big with many guns.

    New PVP feature: Naval combat.
    - The reason for the ship weapons.

    New feature: Free company PVP
    - With the free company ships.

    New duty type: naval duties.
    Like dungeons or guildhests but with ships.
    Enemy ships and sea monsters to kill. Maybe even Leviathan returning.

    New Gold Saucer attraction: Blitzball.
    Same as in Final Fantasy X but with 100% more catgirls.

    Aaaand that's it from me. Now I'd love to hear your predictions. The one who gets the closest to the truth wins an internet cookie. Development team members cannot participate cause that would be cheating but they are more than welcome to comment.
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    Don't forget SAM as the new job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Don't forget SAM as the new job
    Nah. Like I mentioned I WANT samurai as a new job but I would think Samurai would fit Othard more than Ala Mhigo. And the hints for Ala Mhigo are too many to ignore. But if you think we'll get Samurai in 4.0 I'd be happy to read your predictions. I won't even ask you to make it a DPS class. They are your ideas after all.
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    I hope we get a throwback to the awesome FF1 CANOE, then maybe later ships(submarines?), only problem is that usually airships > boats > canoe, unless the mountanous part between coerthas and xelphstol are too high to fly over
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    I hope we get a throwback to the awesome FF1 CANOE, then maybe later ships(submarines?), only problem is that usually airships > boats > canoe, unless the mountanous part between coerthas and xelphstol are too high to fly over
    Maybe airships are too conspicuous so we use regular ships to evade garlean patrols.
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    3.5, Ilberd will destroy Ala Mhigo when he attempts to use Lightbringer to repel Garlemald from the city.
    4.0s new hub area will be Ala Mhigo Safehold, where the survivors have gathered to rebuild.
    New Azys Lla area will be an otherworldly zone with sharks and UFOs that appears to be underwater...
    Zodiark will be the final boss of 4.0, we'll fight him in an instance floating above the moon for some reason, called Empyfake Paradox...
    It'll be called Bindings of Zodiark...

    What? Heavensward pretty much straight up lifted cutscenes from Rise of the Zilart, might as well keep the trend going...

    No but seriously, I have just one prediction; The last boss will be a reference to Final Fantasy VII in some way... We've had:

    1.0, Nael van Darnus, very much taking a few scenes from Sephiroths play book, right down to the "Meteor Project".
    2.0, Ultima Weapon, not specifically a Final Fantasy VII boss, but they did model this version off Final Fantasy VIIs...
    3.0, Knights of the Round, need I say more?
    4.0, it's going to end with a boss fight that is unmistakably inspired by Final Fantasy VII... I'd quite like a Diamond Weapon, given Ultima Weapon was found under Ala Mhigo, so perhaps other such weapons are kicking around the region... Could end with Garlemald blasting a hole in him with their new MakoEikon Cannon, would set up a conflict with Garlemald for 4.1+ leading up to 5.0 quite nicely... That said, my money is on a Gi Nittak reference in the form of the King of Ruin from Ala Mhigan lore, Gyr Abania gives me a Cosmo Canyon vibe for no well explained reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post

    The last boss will be a reference to Final Fantasy VII in some way. We've had:

    1.0, Nael van Darnus
    2.0, Ultima Weapon
    3.0, Knights of the Round
    4.0, I'd quite like a Diamond Weapon, given Ultima Weapon was found under Ala Mhigo, so perhaps other such weapons are kicking around the region. That said, my money is on a Gi Nittak reference in the form of the King of Ruin from Ala Mhigan lore, Gyr Abania gives me a Cosmo Canyon vibe for no well explained reason.
    You might be on to something with the final boss. Gi Nattak would be a prety awesome (and scary) boss fight. And i can totally understand the cosmo canyon vibes. Frankly i envision Gyr Abania to be a lot like Gaia in a way. The main areas controlled by Garlemald filled with magitech. Perhaps not to the level of Midgar but even that is possible. And the resistance hiding in holes dug into the ground like Fort Condor or Cosmo Canyon. Pretty much like Little Ala Mhigo in Southern Thanalan.
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    New City: Ala Mhigo.

    New Race: None, but if we get one it'll be bunny people.

    New jobs:
    Samurai tank, Red Mage melee dps, Dancer or Chemist TP healer. Gives us 4 tanks, 4 melee, 4 ranged, 4 healers.

    New raid: Anima, not really basing it on anything I just think FFX's Anima is cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    New City: Ala Mhigo.

    New Race: None, but if we get one it'll be bunny people.

    New jobs:
    Samurai tank, Red Mage melee dps, Dancer or Chemist TP healer. Gives us 4 tanks, 4 melee, 4 ranged, 4 healers.

    New raid: Anima, not really basing it on anything I just think FFX's Anima is cool.
    Anima would be a cool concept like the earth and hell aspects of it, i was thinking something like the antitower linking the above with hydalyn below, or maybe a mini merge of zodiark and hydalyn, or just a really awesome promal fight with elements like arachne eve from weeping city, some above some below

    also yes i hope we get a new healer that uses tp would be awesomely refreshing
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    Anima would be a cool concept like the earth and hell aspects of it, i was thinking something like the antitower linking the above with hydalyn below, or maybe a mini merge of zodiark and hydalyn, or just a really awesome promal fight with elements like arachne eve from weeping city, some above some below
    To flesh out the Anima raid concept for fun.
    You've driven the Garleans from Ala Mhigo, everyone is celebrating, etc. as you're leaving the celebrations you're contacted by a few Garlean agents who want you to investigate a research site that went dark as they were beaten back.
    As you work your way through it becomes obvious that the guy in charge in his effort to find a way to forever banish or control Primals lost his mind, he started experimenting with the anima and souls of the various inmates the Empire held there and has created a pseudo-primal abomination that he controls with machina fueled by the void.

    Anima: The labs.
    You fight your way through voidsent infested laboratories towards the main tower, Labs4 is a Seymour homage who wants you to stay away from his research and turn back.
    Anima: The tower.
    You ignore him and enter the facilities main tower, it's a panopticon style design that you fight your way up. As you go up you can make out Anima chained up in the centre reaching up the height of the tower. The final fight is in a room at the top looking down over the facility against a void touched and crazy Seymour homage, as you fight you can see Anima beneath you as she gradually wakes up. The enrage wipe for the fight is Anima casting pain into the room you're all in.
    After the fight the cutscene is you releasing the controls on the gathered Anima which should cause her to disappear, but the chains keep her together and contained.
    Anima: The void.
    You descend to the bottom of the tower, fighting through a dark mirror image of it, the walls are falling away revealing an upside down version of the world outside. The facility from 'The labs' is visible as a dark mirrored version in the sky and what would normally be the floor is just endless void. In the centre is Anima's oblivion form chained up.
    Fight 11 is against Seymour homages final form, when you win you use the controls the release the chains. In an awesome cutscene Anima starts to dissipate but so does the void mirror of the tower. When you escape to the surface an awesome CGI cutscene plays in which void-seymour-homage appears and re-summons Anima. The chain from FFX smashes through the facility and drags Anima out of the void ready for fight 12, no idea what the mechanics for the fight would be but the typical 'primal wipes you unless you do this thing' mechanic involves Anima flipping the world upside and doing the Oblivion overdrive with the rest of the fight taking place in the void.

    I think it could work for FFXIV, considering by this point we can be pretty certain the Empire knows that Eorzeans can not only summon but become Primals. I could see a storyline in which a crazed Garlean researcher decides to create an artificial primal with which to wipe out the Eorzeans forever ending the Primal threat. Seymour-homage believes that Primal summoning is eternal and comes to see death as a release from the endless cycle of strife that it brings.

    E: I don't really have much idea for the final fights mechanics, but I'm imaging a lot airships lined up against Anima (possibly brought in by Cid and your new Garlean friends) with the party swapping over them and sliding down grappling hooks onto her arms to attack and stuff.
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