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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Stop with the SAM tank. YoshiP already said SAM, if implemented, would definitely be a DPS.
    And I'll say the same to you. Stop spreading false information, the words "definitely" did not come from Yoshi P's mouth. Unfortunately SAM will probably be a DPS and I have my bar set there so I won't be disappointed. There is still a glimmer of hope that it will be a tank for me though, but that's just my opinion.

    Anyways here is your sourcerino:

    "CGM: Now you and your team have been very responsive to your fans, especially in terms of new classes to release. I understand that there has been much desire among them for the introduction of the Samurai class, but you chose to introduce the Dark Knight instead. How do you anticipate the fans will respond?

    NY: With regard to the new jobs, we actually made the first announcement during our fan festivals last year and there was actually a good number of people who were excited to see that the Dark Knight was chosen in the end. There was very positive response, but of course there were people who wanted the Samurai class. But instead of them being disappointed that the samurai wasn’t chosen they were more like ‘so, when is Samurai coming?’

    In terms of how fans reacted, it makes me think ‘so if we were to put in a Samurai, how is it going to play into the realm of Final Fantasy XIV? Would it be a tank? But that doesn’t seem to make sense because Samurai seems to be more of a DPS. Or if we were to go in the vein of a tank, wouldn’t it be a Shogun?’ those kind of thoughts start brewing in my head. Then we would look to the fan feedback again and see what the community is asking for; what they’re searching for. What their image of what a Samurai ought to be. And again, play catch a little bit and converse and see what the fan thinks and determine and discern what would work in the realm of XIV. So by having that communication and that thought process and being pretty transparent out there, then the player would understand when we say ‘ok so we’re taking this all into consideration. It does take a while to implement a new job so if you could please wait.’ And then fans will understand: ‘oh, ok. So they are giving it a lot of thought, so I am going to see what’s going to come out of it.’"

    http://www.cgmagonline.com/2015/03/1...-with-yoshi-p/

    As you can see, Samurai is being given a lot of thought. to the DPS side and Tank side. We will all just have to wait and see, there is no point in arguing over it just because x wants it as DPS and y wants it as Tank.
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    Last edited by Katana190; 09-07-2016 at 01:31 AM.

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    Looking at past FF games to determine what kind of role Samurai would take doesn't really work (except maybe for XI)... Since pretty much every class would then be a DPS, outside of a few obvious ones like PLD and WHM...

    But honestly, the Samurai class from most FF games where it was, it was a damage dealer in heavy armor.

    But if you want a DPS class that uses Katanas, I would like to mention from Final Fantasy Tactics A2, the Parivir/Yojimbo class.
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    Why not give samurai both, if a tank. Kind of reminds me of this old game Bushido Blade where some characters had a stance that drew out the second weapon, what if tank stance reduced damage slightly and stats of the secondary(like a paladin shield) would get initiated upon drawing that stance. Again though id want them to deal dps damage outside of tank stance because wrecking stuff, that wouldnt happen though probably, or they could keep that same concept even if dps, Traditionally though Final Fantasy Sam always either had both hands attatched to them as a skill or used katana in both regardless.
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    Only getting two jobs in the new expansion would be a serious disappointment to me honestly.
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    I rather see them use either a Kusarigama or a Kanabo. We already have DRK running around with giant swords, if they made SAM use long Katanas I could see them sharing designs with DRK, for smaller blades PLD and NIN have them, would be odd if you ask me to have a 4th tank class with just a small blade, a DPS could work but again, I see them sharing models with NIN if that's the case. The Kanabo and Kusarigama are amount some of the weapons that haven't been seen yet in a FF game that I'm aware of.
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    It'll be the big one as everyone wants to be this guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    It'll be the big one as everyone wants to be this guy...

    You know with Samurai out and the new FFVII remake this outfit will come out (with the hairstyle that has constant clip issues of course).

    But they cant make samurai a tank...if they did that...ALL the two handed heavy weapons would be tanks, which is silly. I actually have a few friends who wont play FFXIV because none of the DPS have the insane large swords/axes like in most games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keramory View Post
    You know with Samurai out and the new FFVII remake this outfit will come out (with the hairstyle that has constant clip issues of course).

    But they cant make samurai a tank...if they did that...ALL the two handed heavy weapons would be tanks, which is silly. I actually have a few friends who wont play FFXIV because none of the DPS have the insane large swords/axes like in most games.
    If "silly" stopped SE we wouldn't have flying turtles and Yo Kai Watch. We left logic behind about a year ago.

    That said I hope SAM is a dps as I would rather have a Nero inspired warhammer user or RDM as a wildcard tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    If "silly" stopped SE we wouldn't have flying turtles and Yo Kai Watch. We left logic behind about a year ago.

    That said I hope SAM is a dps as I would rather have a Nero inspired warhammer user or RDM as a wildcard tank.
    Was there any logic in final fantasy games? I doubt. Final Fantasy was always about those crazy, magical, un-imaginable, sci-fi, surreal, world that we could play in, mech, futuristic, primals, ect..flying turtles and yo-kai watch fits in this, even though it doesn't fit with games lore, anything is possible in a final fantasy game.

    As for SAM being a DPS, i highly doubt it. As back when ninja was released, they wanted to release SAM at the same time but it was still a work in progress (which mean it was a TANK), and they decided not to, because they had already release an oriental class and they felt it would be 'weird', or something like that.

    But eh, not that i care if it goes DPS or not, my queue time are never long since i play healer/tank mainly ^^.
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    Every eastern job introduced so far is a melee DPS. By the lore of the game world it's self, adding SAM as a DPS would mean the Ala Mihgan and Doman had no class or job that specialized in defense (small wonder they both fell to Garlemald...) The very essence of Bushido (as with Chivalry) was honor and service the idea of a Samurai lining up behind the target instead of engaging face to face breaks many of the icons we as fans have all grown up with. Even stated above by a detractor...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Stop with the SAM tank. YoshiP already said SAM, if implemented, would definitely be a DPS. I doubt he would reneg on that. They won't get a spear or a bow, those exist already as arms for other jobs. Katana has been the premier Samurai weapon in every FF game and XIV will be no different. The only thing that I wonder about though is that attacking from flank or rear is unusual for a Samurai because they're all about fair-and-square combat/bushido honor etc. but all dps have positionals, but rear attacks are not a Samurai's style really.
    To that end, what gear are all the pro DPS SAM people envisioning for the job? Do you really expect to steal heavy Tank armor from DRK, PLD, and WAR? Are Samurai not supposed to use gear already themed for them once they hit 60?
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/cb1dae51f2e/


    What many here forget I think is the subject is a real world historical Warrior culture, a nations pride (very much romanticized). Asking for it to be bastardized it for the sake "need sword DPS!" looking cool but having none of the responsibilities of Tanking says alot.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 09-07-2016 at 10:57 AM.

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