Samurai Weapon: Nodachi or basic katana

[ADVSS]

Why not give samurai both, if a tank. Kind of reminds me of this old game Bushido Blade where some characters had a stance that drew out the second weapon, what if tank stance reduced damage slightly and stats of the secondary(like a paladin shield) would get initiated upon drawing that stance. Again though id want them to deal dps damage outside of tank stance because wrecking stuff, that wouldnt happen though probably, or they could keep that same concept even if dps, Traditionally though Final Fantasy Sam always either had both hands attatched to them as a skill or used katana in both regardless.

[EdwinLi]

Stop with the SAM tank. YoshiP already said SAM, if implemented, would definitely be a DPS. I doubt he would reneg on that. They won't get a spear or a bow, those exist already as arms for other jobs. Katana has been the premier Samurai weapon in every FF game and XIV will be no different. The only thing that I wonder about though is that attacking from flank or rear is unusual for a Samurai because they're all about fair-and-square combat/bushido honor etc. but all dps have positionals, but rear attacks are not a Samurai's style really.

Think of it this way that the Samurai was about stirking the weak spots with their katana rather than direct hits on the armor. Katana was aimed more for hitting vital weak spots in armor due to not being very sturdy when it comes to hitting very hard objects. Fast strikes and quick kills was the best option when fighting with a katana due to their design.

[Centershock]

Samurai should use a Yari/Naginata. End of the story.

The Dragoon job, the Yasha/Asura maiming gear, and the Iwa-toshi weapon would like to have a word with you.

[Alacran]

Stop with the SAM tank. YoshiP already said SAM, if implemented, would definitely be a DPS. I doubt he would reneg on that. They won't get a spear or a bow, those exist already as arms for other jobs. Katana has been the premier Samurai weapon in every FF game and XIV will be no different. The only thing that I wonder about though is that attacking from flank or rear is unusual for a Samurai because they're all about fair-and-square combat/bushido honor etc. but all dps have positionals, but rear attacks are not a Samurai's style really.

(copied from a previous post with the same topic...)
People have said this time and again and repeated as though it were gospel... It's not. Yoshi though a great producer/ director is not the end all beat all voice in the room when it comes to the final decision on Job role allotment. This is my Proof of my statement.
https://youtu.be/VpxsH2rBGuw Final Fantasy XIV PAX East 2015 Heavensward Presentation Stream
(job selection discussion begins at 22:20)

With in the same video link provided above detail is given to the fact that the designing, balancing, implementation of three jobs was both taxing and nightmarish, something that the team did not want to repeat...(24:00-25:45)

It is MY belief that we may only get a total of two jobs those being SAM and RDM, My hope is that SAM will be a Tank something that makes sense due to the fact repeatedly we have had Substantiated reports that both Samurai and Dark Knight were considered for the Tank role i.e. the role was chosen already...(28:27-29:30) After understanding that so much work goes into the addition of one job, to throw away assets already created would only serve to increase their work load, a preposterous idea given that as mentioned above it takes nearly a year from start to finish.

More feasible is the idea that what was shelved for HW will be brought to the forefront in 4.0 (implementation of already created assets for a Samurai tank) the addition of RDM or possibly BLU (either of which would be perfect for the much vaunted, desperately "needed" sword DPS)

Mind you, i can fully respect the idea that i am completely wrong and all of this is simply the mind set of yesteryear, however the fact that the Producer/ Director took the time to explain personally the design process of adding new jobs one would think Fans would take the time quote the man directly rather than "Yoshi said....."

[Katana190]

Stop with the SAM tank. YoshiP already said SAM, if implemented, would definitely be a DPS.

And I'll say the same to you. Stop spreading false information, the words "definitely" did not come from Yoshi P's mouth. Unfortunately SAM will probably be a DPS and I have my bar set there so I won't be disappointed. There is still a glimmer of hope that it will be a tank for me though, but that's just my opinion.

Anyways here is your sourcerino:

"CGM: Now you and your team have been very responsive to your fans, especially in terms of new classes to release. I understand that there has been much desire among them for the introduction of the Samurai class, but you chose to introduce the Dark Knight instead. How do you anticipate the fans will respond?

NY: With regard to the new jobs, we actually made the first announcement during our fan festivals last year and there was actually a good number of people who were excited to see that the Dark Knight was chosen in the end. There was very positive response, but of course there were people who wanted the Samurai class. But instead of them being disappointed that the samurai wasn’t chosen they were more like ‘so, when is Samurai coming?’

In terms of how fans reacted, it makes me think ‘so if we were to put in a Samurai, how is it going to play into the realm of Final Fantasy XIV? Would it be a tank? But that doesn’t seem to make sense because Samurai seems to be more of a DPS. Or if we were to go in the vein of a tank, wouldn’t it be a Shogun?’ those kind of thoughts start brewing in my head. Then we would look to the fan feedback again and see what the community is asking for; what they’re searching for. What their image of what a Samurai ought to be. And again, play catch a little bit and converse and see what the fan thinks and determine and discern what would work in the realm of XIV. So by having that communication and that thought process and being pretty transparent out there, then the player would understand when we say ‘ok so we’re taking this all into consideration. It does take a while to implement a new job so if you could please wait.’ And then fans will understand: ‘oh, ok. So they are giving it a lot of thought, so I am going to see what’s going to come out of it.’"

http://www.cgmagonline.com/2015/03/1...-with-yoshi-p/

As you can see, Samurai is being given a lot of thought. to the DPS side and Tank side. We will all just have to wait and see, there is no point in arguing over it just because x wants it as DPS and y wants it as Tank.

[Alacran]

Samurai should use a Yari/Naginata. End of the story.

As of right now it's the weapon of choice for the only Samurai in Hydalen, so maybe?


Though i would more want a two handed Nodachi wielding Tank.

[Ultimatecalibur]

You guys are so focused in wanting a two handed dps or even a sword dps in general that you forget that Samurai is and always has been Parry and Counter focused, which means Tank, which is where i would like Samurai to be.

... No. The only version that is counter attack heavy is the Swordmaster in Bravely Default. Zeninage/Giltoss (throw money for massive damage), Shiradori/Blade Grasp (an evasion boost/parry chance) and Iainuki/Oblivion/Shin-Zantetsu (all target instant kill) are the most commonly recurring abilities for the Samurai.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

... No. The only version that is counter attack heavy is the Swordmaster in Bravely Default. Zeninage/Giltoss (throw money for massive damage), Shiradori/Blade Grasp (an evasion boost/parry chance) and Iainuki/Oblivion/Shin-Zantetsu (all target instant kill) are the most commonly recurring abilities for the Samurai.

Recurring abilities are one thing, but role and stats wise, Samurai have always been more of a parry-counter class with high counter damage but equally high evasion and parry. And not to mention tactics samurai which is basically a support class.

[Dante_V]

Only getting two jobs in the new expansion would be a serious disappointment to me honestly.

[Jetstream_Fox]

I rather see them use either a Kusarigama or a Kanabo. We already have DRK running around with giant swords, if they made SAM use long Katanas I could see them sharing designs with DRK, for smaller blades PLD and NIN have them, would be odd if you ask me to have a 4th tank class with just a small blade, a DPS could work but again, I see them sharing models with NIN if that's the case. The Kanabo and Kusarigama are amount some of the weapons that haven't been seen yet in a FF game that I'm aware of.