Samurai Weapon: Nodachi or basic katana

[Zohar_Lahar]

So if Samurai is in 4.0 as a new Job then which type of Japanese sword would be used?

The nodachi which is basically a very big katana or the basic simple katana which is a bit lighter due to smaller in size.

I assume it will be two-handed either way, and given the general diversity of weapons, they'll probably end up with both.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with samurai weaponskills having something to set them apart from the PLD, DRK, and NIN weaponskills.

[Katana190]

To contribute to the thread, and avoiding SAM Tank vs DPS. I honestly think we might see Dual Katana's being a thing, that or Great Katana (Nodachi more or less). Now I know Dual Katana SAM hasn't been done before (?) But neither was Ragnarok turning into an Axe.. but it happened. As I said before though, we'll see in a few months! But it's not bad to discuss!

So to start, people asking for Naginata and Kanabō, I don't think we'll see these being a possibility to SAM. Naginata has already been used as a DRG weapon and Kanabō will probably just be a variation of a Mace/Hammer job in the future just like a Naginata has been used. Although you could argue Katana's have been used with the Law Greatsword? And I'll make the same argument to that to further increase my speculation that Dual Katana's have a higher possibility then Great Katana's.

Now I know the animation between piercing with spears rather then slashing with a Naginata is different, I know that a Katana's finesse and precision would be different to a big **** off greatsword's power and force. For Kanabō though I could see that easily sharing animations with Maces/Hammer's. ANDDDDD maybe you could even say "Well Kat, Ninja daggers are dual wielding and dual wielding Katana's is what you want, how would that be different?" So to add to this, like the person above me said, dual wielding Katana's would be held the complete opposite way, making the animations pretty significantly different imo.

As you can see, I really want to see SAM dual wielding Katana's! I can totally seeing it happening, but feel free to let me know what you guys think of my breakdown and tell me if I forgot something or if you feel something is off with it.

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was rtying to find a dual katana pic but couldnt find anything with the traditional ff sam armor look.

why i mentioned the roles, is because, to me 2 katana seems more for defense then holding one with both hands for more precise cuts and power, you lose that precision and power when the other hand is holding a weapon, so for a katana of decent size id expect just both hands i dont really see them giving samurai a huge katana this time around, regardless

[Evangela]

Not a fan of slow-paced gameplay. I hope Samurai job will be more like wandering ronin instead of the oldschool full-armored samurai. If they use giant sword and swing it as slow as DRK, it's not gonna be my favorite job.

I want SMR to be a DPS job too.

[Balipu]

Not a fan of slow-paced gameplay. I hope Samurai job will be more like wandering ronin instead of the oldschool full-armored samurai. If they use giant sword and swing it as slow as DRK, it's not gonna be my favorite job.

I want SMR to be a DPS job too.

Samurai swords were pretty light compared to what knights used. Light or otherwise.

I have to say though. I still don't think Samurai would fit the next expansion, but after all this discussion of samurai arms, I would hate to see this all being for nothing. So yeah, we need a Samurai. Wonder where we would start though. I can't imagine Ala Mhigo having too many Samurai.

[Morningstar1337]

I feel that SAM would be implinted lore wise the same way NIN has, as a result od Doma importing the art. The circumstances would be different however, due to both Ala Mhigo's status as a state-turned-garlemald-colony and possibly Bushido (their code of honor) rendering them unable to leave either Doma or Garlemald (likely leading to a Similar case to the Free Paladins, with the players being technicality Ronin)

[Evangela]

It doesn't have to be related to Ala Mhigo, bros.

[Balipu]

It doesn't have to be related to Ala Mhigo, bros.

No? Samurai was abandoned in favor of Dark Knight because it didn't fit Ishgard. I don't think it fits Ala Mhigo either. Besides. We have to go to Othard eventually. Explore Doma Castle and maybe Wutai. We need a japanese class to go with it and ninja is already taken.
Deep down I hope I'm wrong cause samurai would be awesome, but logic dictates that we won't get Samurai now.

[Shippuu]

No? Samurai was abandoned in favor of Dark Knight because it didn't fit Ishgard. I don't think it fits Ala Mhigo either. Besides. We have to go to Othard eventually. Explore Doma Castle and maybe Wutai. We need a japanese class to go with it and ninja is already taken.
Deep down I hope I'm wrong cause samurai would be awesome, but logic dictates that we won't get Samurai now.

There was more reasons than it not simply fitting ishgard. They didn't want to release another eastern themed job so close to ninja's release as well.

You are also assuming we will have access to Ala mhigo as a central city from the beginning which is very likely not going to be the case. The expansion itself will likely entail reclaiming Ala mhigo, it will be a process to fight for it and take it, not simply just walking in. So the jobs added make less sense to have some kind of requirement of them being attached to Ala mhigo.

The majority of our job trainers are not attached to any specific city state as it is anyways, and not even the heavensward jobs are all tied specifically to ishgard (AST).

We honestly don't have to go to Othard eventually. There's nothing stating we ever have to see the entirety of the world and there is plenty to explore in the world that are far closer to eorzea that we will likely see first. That would mean pushing samurai to a very far future which they likely will not do for such a requested job.

[Katana190]

No? Samurai was abandoned in favor of Dark Knight because it didn't fit Ishgard. I don't think it fits Ala Mhigo either. Besides. We have to go to Othard eventually. Explore Doma Castle and maybe Wutai. We need a japanese class to go with it and ninja is already taken.
Deep down I hope I'm wrong cause samurai would be awesome, but logic dictates that we won't get Samurai now.

Very curios but is SAM mentioned in the slightest to be from Doma? I mean maybe it would be silly for NIN and SAM to not be related, but I feel SAM could fit being an elite Gyr Abania soldier? Gyr Abania area will be very mountainous with mountain streams and waterfalls I'm guessing and that's quite oriental to me, besides MNK also came from Gyr Abania right? I think it might make sense for SAM to actually be a native Ala Mhigo soldier. I've also heard Doma is completely destroyed so their might not even be a point going there. That's my input anyways!